Islamic state of London not safe, in general

[Churchill]

Obviously one can't trust the reporting because it's a Murdoch paper, but if it is in fact the case that the police haven't classed it as a hate crime (whatever that means: pretty sure the legal term is different) because they attacked him for being "not from around here", surely that's contradictory?

But as the source is a Murdoch paper it's very hard to know what to think, as all of the circumstances are undoubtedly wildly different from what was published.

For those jumping on the "I'm not racist but" bandwagon: my local police force categorises crimes as involving racial hatred ("hate crimes" in Murdoch-lackeyspeak) when the victims are White British and the perpetrators are not, and the racial difference has been a contributory factor in the crime. If the Met won't do so, that's down to them, not to the law of the land, so you can stop feeling so put upon for being in a privileged majority.

It's 'coz I'm not black, init?

[doodab]

It's 'coz I'm not black, init?

I thought you were orange

[Ticktock]

you can stop feeling so put upon for being in a privileged majority.

Ah... so what you're saying is "you happen to be of a certain ethnic grouping, so it's right that the law treats crimes against you less seriously than if you belonged to a different ethnic group."

Really?

[amcdonald]

The background to this is that last year clips were appearing on youtube of people being harrassed in the area by self appointed muslim patrols

Quite a while later various right wing blogs then picked up on this and started blogging about it

The nationals then picked up on it berating the police for doing nothing

After at least a year of this the police did actually arrest people

Now for some reason it's suddenly become news again, so is it a good day to bury bad news perhaps ?

It should be stopped, but I'm equally interested in why the press has a sudden interest in it again

[doodab]

There is CCTV of it. It looks to me they they are talking to him fairly calmly and (around 48/49s) the guy who got beaten up makes a move, bottle (or is it a can?) in hand, at one of them.

[lilelvis2000]

There is CCTV of it. It looks to me they they are talking to him fairly calmly and (around 48/49s) the guy who got beaten up makes a move, bottle (or is it a can?) in hand, at one of them.

Clearly stalking him and he tried to walk off and they beat him up. What they are saying doesn't look calm to me, looks like "you shouldn't be around here mate, how about a contribution to the mosque". As the attackers don't appear to be the religious type.

[vetran]

they herded him into a corner, then surrounded him, agitated him. He ran they delivered a kicking. Looked awful like bullying to me.

Then they started laying their hands on him at about 30s, the thin guy with the baseball cap made jabbing movements in his face the Italian took exception and gestured to stop, grabbed the thin guy thinking he was the most dangerous in his way and tried to escape. They chased after him battered him to the ground then put the boot in.

I'm assuming the one with the pixelated face was under age.

Still against cctv in some cases?

[lilelvis2000]

they herded him into a corner, then surrounded him, agitated him. He ran they delivered a kicking. Looked awful like bullying to me.

Then they started laying their hands on him at about 30s, the thin guy with the baseball cap made jabbing movements in his face the Italian took exception and gestured to stop, grabbed the thin guy thinking he was the most dangerous in his way and tried to escape. They chased after him battered him to the ground then put the boot in.

I'm assuming the one with the pixelated face was under age.

Still against cctv in some cases?

Pretty clear that the person watching the CCTV and moving the camera didn't seem to sense a problem and call the cops in advance? If it was me I'd be on the horn telling the cops somethings going to go down.

Oh if only the cops were as smart as Kojak.

[NickFitz]

Ah... so what you're saying is "you happen to be of a certain ethnic grouping, so it's right that the law treats crimes against you less seriously than if you belonged to a different ethnic group."

Really?

If you read what I said, it was the complete opposite of that.

[Spacecadet]

I see a pattern forming:
Four Lithuanians in court charged with murdering young Italian man Joele Leotta in Maidstone flat