Something I don't get with the US shutting down n all

[sasguru]

You persist in the belief that you can shoehorn me into some ideological category. I know the world is a confusing place, and it's easier to understand if you reduce everything to a few very, very simple categories; but sadly, such simplification leads to a representation that is insufficient to capture the true complexity of reality.

I'm sorry if I misjudged you.
The simplification seems to be coming from yourself with a kind of Tories bad, anything else good vibe.
Perhaps you would let us know what you think economic policy in the UK should be since it's easy to criticise existing policy without explaining alternatives?

[hyperD]

The simplification seems to be coming from yourself with a kind of Tories bad, anything else good vibe.

It still surprises me today that people still simply bark this political rhetoric with impunity.

There was a poster (Alf W I think) that lurked around and whenever there was a thread about the Tories, used to jump in like a Ben Elton-esque parody and spunked words around like "Fatcher", "grave", "pissing".

But when it came to a post critiquing Liebour,.... nothing.

The disease of partisanship misdirect is a curse amongst us.

[sasguru]

It still surprises me today that people still simply bark this political rhetoric with impunity.

There was a poster (Alf W I think) that lurked around and whenever there was a thread about the Tories, used to jump in like a Ben Elton-esque parody and spunked words around like "Fatcher", "grave", "pissing".

But when it came to a post critiquing Liebour,.... nothing.

The disease of partisanship misdirect is a curse amongst us.

True enough, but I also think your idea that ALL politicians are crooks is wide of the mark.

[scooterscot]

Vote Yes next year instead, that'll spice things up a bit.

Say what it the UK going to call itself after, RUK?

You'll be between Romania & Russia in the next drop down list, quite fitting actually poor at the top wealthy at the bottom.

[hyperD]

True enough, but I also think your idea that ALL politicians are crooks is wide of the mark.

Agreed. Some like Hoey, Frank Field and Philip Davies appear to have sound values but they're a sole voice in an unstoppable system of carnage.

[DimPrawn]

Camoron is cut from the same cloth as Bliar.

I can picture them slapping each other on the back whilst sipping Champagne on some trillionaire's hyperyacht in a few years time.

None of the mainstream parties have any will/desire/interest to address the slow slide of the west into economic oblivion at the hands of the global elite.

[sasguru]

None of the mainstream parties have any will/desire/interest to address the slow slide of the west into economic oblivion at the hands of the global elite.

What would you suggest?

[DimPrawn]

What would you suggest?

Becoming one of the global elite.

[sasguru]

Becoming one of the global elite.

Keep on with improving your C++, that'll help.

[NickFitz]

I'm sorry if I misjudged you.
The simplification seems to be coming from yourself with a kind of Tories bad, anything else good vibe.
Perhaps you would let us know what you think economic policy in the UK should be since it's easy to criticise existing policy without explaining alternatives?

Unlike so many on here, I don't claim to be able to offer an unfailing prescription to cure the nation's economic woes on the basis that I once read something in the paper, or heard something down the pub, that seemed to confirm my existing prejudices.

But I'm pretty sure that setting out deliberately to create an underclass and grind it ever deeper into poverty, while garnering support for such actions by promoting hatred of the weak and disadvantaged, for the long-term benefit of already-wealthy institutions and individuals, is not the way to create a land of opportunity.

And before people start (or carry on) with their "Oh, but [Blair|Brown|Whoever] did such-and-such" ripostes: the fact that X once did something bad doesn't mean that Y doing something different is automatically good. There are many different ways to **** things up, and politicians usually manage, between their differing ideologies, to find all of them.