Something I don't get with the US shutting down n all

[amcdonald]

If that occurs it wouldn't matter what Osborne did. I am, however, starting to have doubts about how strong this recovery is.......

It looks more like a dead cat bounce than a recovery

Quantitive easing is being used to prop up the housing market and help pay the governments debt

The job market is stablising more through wages having fallen than there being a genuine growth in the market, and that's before we get flooded with cheap labour again

[DimPrawn]

The debt ceiling thing is a separate issue, which doesn't come to a head for about three weeks. That's the point when the USA defaults on its debts, the global economy crumbles, and people realise what a load of utter bollocks Osborne's "recovery" actually is. Can't wait

I think everyone can already see what Osbourne's "recovery" based on throwing freshly printed money to banks to push up house prices, but not to businesses who need to expand/invest, actually is.

[Jog On]

Whilst I agree with your economic observation, I feel you have a touch of the partisanship about you Mr Fitz: to simply blame the egregious douchebag Osborne solely for the dire financial straits that this country has levied under the monocular disaster that was Gordon "I saved the world" Brown is perhaps missing the point.

I mean, the previous bunch of parasites under the Captain's steady Nokia chucking helm simply spunked our revenue into any fecking cause and benefited you and I by scrapping the dividend tax credit on our pensions.

Just one of many examples of his financial acumen.

So please, don't mock the afflicted.

Let's not forget that epic gold trade...

[NickFitz]

Spoken with all the venom of a true ideologue.
I never had you down as a cretin before, but there's always time
You seem to be the lefty counterpart of Dodgy, just as clichéd.

You don't need to adhere to any ideology to see that the supposed recovery is Gideon's dead goldfish dressed as sushi. It's blatantly obvious.

[sasguru]

You don't need to adhere to any ideology to see that the supposed recovery is Gideon's dead goldfish dressed as sushi. It's blatantly obvious.

That's not what I hear when I talk to people with real businesses as opposed to narrowly focused and biased IT geeks.
You need to think out of your box.
For some non-anecdotal evidence:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23893789
http://www.theguardian.com/business/...put-uk-economy
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...690509974.html

[Sysman]

Press F8 for boot options

F8 never works for me. Why should it work for anyone else?

[NickFitz]

That's not what I hear when I talk to people with real businesses as opposed to narrowly focused and biased IT geeks.
You need to think out of your box.
For some non-anecdotal evidence:

BBC News - British Chambers of Commerce: Recovery gaining momentum
Manufacturing recovery continues despite fall in factory output growth | Business | theguardian.com
IMF Raises U.K. Growth Forecast - WSJ.com

Now, let's see:

• BBC News - British Chambers of Commerce: Recovery gaining momentum
  
  "Unfortunately the recovery is not yet secure," said BCC head John Longworth.
  
  "We have had false dawns in recent years and although this upturn appears to be on stronger ground, we must be aware that complacency could lead to setbacks," the organisation's director general said.
  
• Manufacturing recovery continues despite fall in factory output growth | Business | theguardian.com
  
  However, Hopley said the sector faced headwinds that could restrict its expansion in the coming months...
  
  Alan Clarke, UK economist at Scotia Bank, said: "The latest Markit survey could be a blip in an otherwise upward sloping trend because recoveries are seldom a straight-line affair.
  
• IMF Raises U.K. Growth Forecast - WSJ.com
  
  However, a decline in factory output and an increase in the trade deficit during May that were disclosed earlier Tuesday served as a reminder that the recovery is still ... [hits paywall]

[sasguru]

Now, let's see:

• BBC News - British Chambers of Commerce: Recovery gaining momentum
  
  "Unfortunately the recovery is not yet secure," said BCC head John Longworth.
  
  "We have had false dawns in recent years and although this upturn appears to be on stronger ground, we must be aware that complacency could lead to setbacks," the organisation's director general said.
  
• Manufacturing recovery continues despite fall in factory output growth | Business | theguardian.com
  
  However, Hopley said the sector faced headwinds that could restrict its expansion in the coming months...
  
  Alan Clarke, UK economist at Scotia Bank, said: "The latest Markit survey could be a blip in an otherwise upward sloping trend because recoveries are seldom a straight-line affair.
  
• IMF Raises U.K. Growth Forecast - WSJ.com
  
  However, a decline in factory output and an increase in the trade deficit during May that were disclosed earlier Tuesday served as a reminder that the recovery is still ... [hits paywall]

Of course any recovery will be tentative given that our major export markets are mired in depression

No doubt you're one of those who would have liked to join the Euro and thus end up in a situation like the PIIGS with 20% (50% youth) unemployment and a depression due to a German policy that makes our so-called "austerity" look like a walk in the park?

[Runs With Scissors]

It's pronounced New-Cu-Ler.

No it isn't.

[NickFitz]

Of course any recovery will be tentative given that our major export markets are mired in depression

No doubt you're one of those who would have liked to join the Euro and thus end up in a situation like the PIIGS with 20% (50% youth) unemployment and a depression due to a German policy that makes our so-called "austerity" look like a walk in the park?

You persist in the belief that you can shoehorn me into some ideological category. I know the world is a confusing place, and it's easier to understand if you reduce everything to a few very, very simple categories; but sadly, such simplification leads to a representation that is insufficient to capture the true complexity of reality.