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    #21
    Originally posted by socialworker View Post
    Death penalty for people towing caravans in the middle lane?
    Beat me to it. I was going to suggest stationing mortar operators along the motorways to remove unwanted caravans.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
      Beat me to it. I was going to suggest stationing mortar operators along the motorways to remove unwanted caravans.
      seems valid. Gives the army something to do and a moving target to practice on.
      merely at clientco for the entertainment

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        #23
        Bring back Vicki Buttocks Henderson.
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #24
          Racing drivers to be sent to the 'Graham Hill Memorial School of Suave and Sophisticated', to learn about the benefits of fine champagnes, subtly ironic quips and good grooming. Get rid of the oiks in motor racing.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #25
            Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
            At least we would not get any more stupidly low speed limits. Loads of rural roads round here are 40mph. If idiots like the "Green" (ie loony socialist) Party had their way we would all be travelling at 5mph.
            Although yes of course yes the Greens are now in effect Britain's socialist party, this is more due to them being arts graduates.

            The evidence is that 20 mph speed limits actually increase road deaths.

            One reason for this is that a fast road with lots of Audi drivers showing off their penis replacements is clearly dangerous and thus avoided by pedestrians. A 20 Mph road feels safer, even though of course some prats are breaking the limit.

            The reason is this an arts grad thing, rather than strictly speaking a green thing is that they are flatly refusing to change their view in spite of evidence because their emotional response to speed is hate, rather than for the poor sods who die or lose limbs.

            The difference between science and art is that art is about the artist feeling good about himself, science is about what is really going on here, which often doesn't make you feel better at all.
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              #26
              Cut benefits and invest in Richard Noble's Bloodhound project The challengers | BLOODHOUND SSC
              one one condition; find someone more interesting than Andy Green to drive it. Great driver, I'm sure, but can't we have a Campbell/Hunt/G Hill type character ? Someone who'll thrash the Yanks on their own soil and then calmly ask for a stiff drink.
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #27
                Originally posted by Dominic Connor View Post
                The evidence is that 20 mph speed limits actually increase road deaths.
                Link?
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dominic Connor View Post
                  The evidence is that 20 mph speed limits actually increase road deaths.

                  The difference between science and art is that art is about the artist feeling good about himself, science is about what is really going on here, which often doesn't make you feel better at all.
                  Perhaps you could point to the evidence about 20 mph speed limits increasing deaths, rather than being an artist feeling good about yourself by talking bollux?
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                    Perhaps you could point to the evidence about 20 mph speed limits increasing deaths, rather than being an artist feeling good about yourself by talking bollux?
                    very quick google

                    BBC News - Casualties on 20mph roads up by quarter in 2011

                    but research is inconclusive as they don't know proportion of 20mph roads in 2011 compared to 2010.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by eek View Post
                      very quick google

                      BBC News - Casualties on 20mph roads up by quarter in 2011

                      but research is inconclusive as they don't know proportion of 20mph roads in 2011 compared to 2010.
                      For the figures to be meaningful, you'd need to know:

                      - how many 20mph roads exist in the UK?
                      - what is their percentage increase?
                      - how long are they?
                      - how many people use them?

                      which DafT don't know.
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