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And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014 -
Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostIndeed, it's an excellent system for young footballers in Germany. It's something that isn't available for all sports, and certainly wasn't available in the UK when I was trying to get into professional sport. It is now though; the rugby academies are moving in the same direction and doing a good job for their players; Wasps claim their academy gets 90% of its players into full time contracts at 18, which is impressive, but I'm not sure whether they achieve that chiefly by being extremely selective at the start or by running an excellent program. I think this kind of thing is a good development.Comment
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostIndeed, it's an excellent system for young footballers in Germany. It's something that isn't available for all sports, and certainly wasn't available in the UK when I was trying to get into professional sport. It is now though; the rugby academies are moving in the same direction and doing a good job for their players; Wasps claim their academy gets 90% of its players into full time contracts at 18, which is impressive, but I'm not sure whether they achieve that chiefly by being extremely selective at the start or by running an excellent program. I think this kind of thing is a good development.
In Europe, with football for example, it seems that the push is to grab kids as young as possible. In the US the professional teams are recruiting at around age 21, and when you look at the physicality of American football vs. "soccer" football that doesn't seem to be an issue. In essence the teams are letting the education system deal with youth training, and then picking from the best of these developed sportspeople.Comment
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Originally posted by Pondlife View PostI'm pretty sure that if Jamie Roberts can qualify as a doctor whilst still being competitive/devoted enough to play for the lions on two separate tours, then there are enough hours in the day for both sport and education. Ditto for Alun Wyn Jones (Law degree) and I'm sure countless others.
I have to say I admire Jamie Roberts for what he's done though; that takes a lot of hard work, but don't underestimate how much it helped him to be part of the Wales youth set-up which does a good job of helping players manage studying and playing. Alun Wyn Jones did indeed get a law degree, but he did it part time at Swansea, which is a university with very good support for sportspeople; all credit to him, but don't start thinking everyone can do a full time degree and play top level rugby at the same time. A few can, but not many. Even back in the days of shamateurism that was very tough; there were quite a few good players who had, erm, let's call them very part time 'full time jobs' and others who took a couple of years longer to study.Last edited by Mich the Tester; 21 August 2013, 08:29.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Mich, I wasn't disagreeing with you. My opinion is that although not every sports person has degree potential and as you say, some have other real life situations to consider, clubs who talent pick players at a young age have an obligation to ensure that a balanced environment is provided. That must include ongoing education & support.Comment
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Originally posted by Pondlife View Post...clubs who talent pick players at a young age have an obligation to ensure that a balanced environment is provided. That must include ongoing education & support.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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