This Egypt Business

[meridian]

One problem is that in those countries many people think that democracy is getting majority vote that can force their views on minorities.

In those countries way too often democratically elected leaders took full power and did not give a tulip about democracy afterwards.

Perhaps that should be the duty of any army - make sure no such thing can happen in order to upheld democracy.

A problem in any country (including the UK) is that we think they we live in a democracy - we do not.

We vote in a few hundred people to decide the rules and laws for us. We do not decide a 50 % majority on government, nor do we decide a 50 % majority on laws that are passed on our behalf. We do not decide the leader (prime minister) of a party, nor do we decide whether or not, if they fall short of 50%, whether they are capable of ruling alone or in coalition.

[AtW]

A problem in any country (including the UK) is that we think they we live in a democracy - we do not.

Maybe, but at least the Army here does not shoot 500 people dead who were protesting removal of democratically elected PM...

[NotAllThere]

The UK is an elective oligarchy - which is a form of democracy (representative).

[amcdonald]

Hitler's popular vote was 43.91% [1], which is just over Bliar's result in 1997 which was 43.2% [2].

Sources:

[1] German federal election, March 1933 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[2] United Kingdom general election, 1997 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both waged illegal wars though

[amcdonald]

One problem is that in those countries many people think that democracy is getting majority vote that can force their views on minorities.

In those countries way too often democratically elected leaders took full power and did not give a tulip about democracy afterwards.

Perhaps that should be the duty of any army - make sure no such thing can happen in order to upheld democracy.

Whearas here democracy means the establishment lording it over us whoever we vote for

[alreadypacked]

My guess is Morsi tried to impose some control on the army in Egypt. They would not allow their independence to be taken away, so the supported the Anti-Morsi group.

Now the army should release Morsi, but they need to stop all protests before he is released. Because if there are any protests after he is released he can be blamed him and arrested him again.

Danger is, if the crackdown is too hard they will end-up with terrorists, if the army backs down and allows Morsi back, within 2 years they will be helping (invading) Libya etc. 5 years

<Spin doctor> Egyptian army need to identify some of the dead as Irianian etc. Big plot to take over the country. </Spin doctor>

[doodab]

Whearas here democracy means choosing who we whinge about for the next 5 years

FTFY

[minestrone]

It will be jihad central over there soon.

They might have to start putting a limit on how many virgins they get in heaven such will be the carnage.

[quackhandle]

Sorry to go off tangent, but I got the impression (from a rather good Docu-drama with Robert Carlisle as Adolf) that they let AH in power but they (Hindenburg et al) still thought they could control the "Bavarian Corporal", not realising how powerful he was/to become.


qh

[MarillionFan]

Hitler was also democratically elected.

That's a very good point.