Bongo Bongo land

[Mich the Tester]

Money is a bit short in the UK and other European countries, and so when people talk about savings, they go for the easy targets that they don't think will affect themselves, like foreign aid and EU budgets which constitute a tiny proportion of the country's expenditure. Nobody wants to talk about savings that they believe will affect their own quality of life.

[sirja]

Do you need a visa to visit bongo bongo land?
Do they play footie there?
Can I get a cheap dentist out there?

[Mich the Tester]

Do you need a visa to visit bongo bongo land?
Do they play footie there?
Can I get a cheap dentist out there?

Probably, but seeing as we've been informed by the Mash that it's in West Africa you can probably buy the visa when you arrive at the airport and it won't cost that much, but its safer to arrange it before your leave; it'll certainly be easier for a Briton to visit Bongo-bongo land than a Bongo-bongolese citizen wishing to visit Britain.

Yes, they play 'footie' everywhere in Africa. Literally everywhere, even on the roofs, on top of buses, in trains, on the beach etc.

You probably can get a cheap dentist there; he will most likely be an Indian gentleman, or possibly Chinese.

[darmstadt]

Probably, but seeing as we've been informed by the Mash that it's in West Africa you can probably buy the visa when you arrive at the airport and it won't cost that much, but its safer to arrange it before your leave; it'll certainly be easier for a Briton to visit Bongo-bongo land than a Bongo-bongolese citizen wishing to visit Britain.

Shurley shome mishtake, its in Hull: Bongo Bongo Nightclub Hull - "One of the UK's most unique Nightclubs"

[vetran]

Money is a bit short in the UK and other European countries, and so when people talk about savings, they go for the easy targets that they don't think will affect themselves, like foreign aid and EU budgets which constitute a tiny proportion of the country's expenditure. Nobody wants to talk about savings that they believe will affect their own quality of life.

partially true but I was suggesting that we change not cut. Billions spent on the right aid could make good sense for everyone.

I can assure you I'm squeaking, plenty of cuts and hidden extras have affected my family. But seeing my standard of living cut while we are spending my tax on buying a few new 7 series BMWs for an african prince has to rankle.



SAS stop with the Empire guilt, the converse side is that once America and other colonies came on line India was finished. The Americans etc were happy to compete with most of India's exports at a lower price and without the in Fighting from the locals that plagued the private enterprises that were raiding India.

I wasn't born then and none of my ancestors had any part in it so = no guilt.

I don't accept guilt for what a private company did to the Indians any more than I accept guilt for what Pepsi,McDonalds, TCS & WiPro are doing to India and other countries now.

India could have just as easily been run by the French, Spanish or Portuguese (in fact large parts were before being captured by the British army after piracy and traders began fighting amongst themselves.). Have a look and see how badly off they would have been now if they had been. Can you name a successful first world ex French / Portuguese colony from the 18th century? Australia,Hong Kong and America were all ex British. Only one i can think of is Canada.

Yes I live in a developed country and I am very lucky, but it was conquered, invaded and abused many times in its past, the key reason we succeeded round the world was we had better technology and systems see what the Romans did for us!

[original PM]

Shurley shome mishtake, its in Hull: Bongo Bongo Nightclub Hull - "One of the UK's most unique Nightclubs"

A night out in Hull is always memorable - just never for the right reasons.

Last time I was there I saw some pimp smack his bitch up

[sirja]

Probably, but seeing as we've been informed by the Mash that it's in West Africa you can probably buy the visa when you arrive at the airport and it won't cost that much, but its safer to arrange it before your leave; it'll certainly be easier for a Briton to visit Bongo-bongo land than a Bongo-bongolese citizen wishing to visit Britain.

Yes, they play 'footie' everywhere in Africa. Literally everywhere, even on the roofs, on top of buses, in trains, on the beach etc.

You probably can get a cheap dentist there; he will most likely be an Indian gentleman, or possibly Chinese.

Well it sounds great. Can't wait to go and come back with my 'I went to Bongo bongo T-shirt!'

[doodab]

Can you name a successful first world ex French / Portuguese colony from the 18th century? Australia,Hong Kong and America were all ex British. Only one i can think of is Canada.

Macau
Goa
Brazil

[Mich the Tester]

Macau
Goa
Brazil

Quebec

[Mich the Tester]

partially true but I was suggesting that we change not cut. Billions spent on the right aid could make good sense for everyone.

I can assure you I'm squeaking, plenty of cuts and hidden extras have affected my family. But seeing my standard of living cut while we are spending my tax on buying a few new 7 series BMWs for an african prince has to rankle.

I understand precisely how you feel; cuts have affected the Tester clan too, and we see the NL government raising taxes again (see my sig for my opinion on that). But let's not pretend that Africans are to blame for this; those 7 series BMWs probably aren't financed from the UK aid budget, but from local politicians selling land to Chinese and Indian investors who want to farm it or mine it. Quite often, as is right now the case in Ethiopia, old land agreements between tribes have been trodden all over so that mayors or national politicians can 'earn' a few million while local people lose the land their families have owned or used for hundreds of years. It's not just happening in places where there was previously no written law, but in Ethiopia, which has the oldest written language in the world. The aid given by the British government generally goes straight to local people in well targeted projects, and doesn't often go to local dictators. There's lots of info about this on the FCO website which redirects to embassies in the third world where you can see which projects the British government carries out. In fact, despite the way some people in the world like to badmouth British foreign policy, the British government has a very good name when it comes to giving useful, honest and effective aid; that's why countries are queueing up to work with Britain on development.

No, Africans, even those bastard self annointed 'princes' with their fleets of 7 series, are not to blame for the current mess and shouldn'y have to face the consequences of it; it's our own decadent, overblown governments. Publicly funded lesbian outreach officers, speed bumps at every junction with the inspectors that go with them, regulation of every fart that leaves our arses, and fighting unwinnable wars in the middle east; that's where the money went. Oh, and of course failed banks.