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    #31
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    They buy all those things with just £280 million? Feck me, they must be deal-doing geniuses.

    Britain’s £280 million aid to India will be scrapped - Telegraph

    You are a fooking cretin.
    I wouldn't be so sure they couldn't make that money go further. Like when Japan/Korea hosted the world cup in 2002 and Japan was able to build around half a dozen or so stadiums from scratch (with fancy closing roofs as well) for the same price that it cost the UK to build just one Wembley.

    Some other countries do have the ability to spend money wisely and not p*ss half of it away on over-priced contractors, "bonuses" to management and stuffed-full brown envelopes to "grease the wheels" so to speak. If you want all these things, the UK takes some beating.

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      #32
      Originally posted by billybiro View Post
      Some other countries do have the ability to spend money wisely and not p*ss half of it away on over-priced contractors
      These do not exist. You are clearly talking bollocks; please desist.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #33
        Given that we have established that Bongos come from Cuba so its a totally imaginary land, I wonder if a similar response would have ensued if a non white person had referred to Never-Never land?

        Personally I think Aid is nothing more than a cynical bribe to the dishonest (mainly, some are just incompetent) regimes that keep their population in poverty.

        We should replace it with a defined project to bring the lands up to a humane level. A lot can be done for nothing but a good dose of faith (not necessary religious) and enthusiasm.

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          #34
          Originally posted by vetran View Post
          Given that we have established that Bongos come from Cuba so its a totally imaginary land, I wonder if a similar response would have ensued if a non white person had referred to Never-Never land?

          Personally I think Aid is nothing more than a cynical bribe to the dishonest (mainly, some are just incompetent) regimes that keep their population in poverty.

          We should replace it with a defined project to bring the lands up to a humane level. A lot can be done for nothing but a good dose of faith (not necessary religious) and enthusiasm.
          Migrants have been replacing aid with something much more effective; remittances that go straight to the family and help to build up family businesses. Unfortunately they're now suffering from western banking regulations;

          BBC News - Mo Farah joins campaign for Barclays to keep cash transfers

          Having said that, aid is becoming more effective too as aid organisations learn what works and what doesn't work in different societies.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #35
            Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
            Migrants have been replacing aid with something much more effective; remittances that go straight to the family and help to build up family businesses. Unfortunately they're now suffering from western banking regulations;

            BBC News - Mo Farah joins campaign for Barclays to keep cash transfers

            Having said that, aid is becoming more effective too as aid organisations learn what works and what doesn't work in different societies.
            Indeed much good work is done with faith and enthusiasm.

            I was only talking about our Aid program though as frankly its a disgrace.

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              #36
              Originally posted by vetran View Post
              Indeed much good work is done with faith and enthusiasm.

              I was only talking about our Aid program though as frankly its a disgrace.
              To be fair most countries use foreign aid as a bribe for their countries corporations to be able to bribe their way into procurement contracts by the back door
              Last edited by amcdonald; 7 August 2013, 14:55.
              Doing the needful since 1827

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                #37
                Originally posted by vetran View Post
                Indeed much good work is done with faith and enthusiasm.

                I was only talking about our Aid program though as frankly its a disgrace.
                The aid programs need to try and work along with the migrants who know the local situation; really effective aid is often a small scale thing, not the old fashioned approach of trying to build infrastructure for a whole country. But what do you find disgraceful about the UK's aid program?
                And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                  The aid programs need to try and work along with the migrants who know the local situation; really effective aid is often a small scale thing, not the old fashioned approach of trying to build infrastructure for a whole country. But what do you find disgraceful about the UK's aid program?
                  Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
                  To be fair most countries use foreign aid as a bribe for their countries corporations to be able to bribe their way into procurement contracts by the back
                  that and the fact it underpins immoral regimes.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post
                    that and the fact it underpins immoral regimes.
                    I know that aid is given in some countries with pretty unsavoury regimes, but that's the reality of providing aid where people need it. Some aid arguably underpins immoral or at best incompetent regimes, like food aid in the great lakes regions (which shouldn't be necessary there), but then education programs that bring literacy to the same people could be said to be undermining unsavoury regimes; trouble is, if you want kids to go to school, you'll need to make sure they get something to eat.

                    It's not a simple goodies and baddies game. Sometimes you have to do business with the bad guys to help the good guys. Sometimes the bad guys will outsmart you, sometimes they won't.
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
                      now now

                      youre not including all the hidden aid to India, the uncapped ICT work visas we give them, the tax dispensations we give their big organisations here, the intellectual property we invented which they have been given, and so on
                      It's probably guilt for the fact that we took an area that contributed 25% of world GDP and bled it dry so that by the time we left it was merely 3% of world GDP.
                      TBH the Indians have done to well to come back so strongly after just 50 years.
                      Hard Brexit now!
                      #prayfornodeal

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