Termination

[SimonMac]

TL;DR

But basically, yes there are certain posters on here who's parents really should have considered a termination instead.

[malvolio]

OK, getting bored now...

Hand up all those who can't differentiate between the following two statements:

1. We aim to tell you four weeks in advance that we will be terminating your current engagement.

2. There is no more paid work for you to do so please go home

If you can't then please stop arguing until you can.

[VectraMan]

OK, getting bored now...

Hand up all those who can't differentiate between the following two statements:

1. We aim to tell you four weeks in advance that we will be terminating your current engagement.

2. There is no more paid work for you to do so please go home

If you can't then please stop arguing until you can.

Hands up who can't differentiate between:

1. We aim to tell you four weeks in advance that we will be terminating your current engagement.

2. The agency will give the supplier 4 weeks notice of termination.

Sorry, but that's so stupid as to deserve a "Aim to tell you" - if a contract said that you'd know that it meant nothing.

[malvolio]

Hands up who can't differentiate between:

1. We aim to tell you four weeks in advance that we will be terminating your current engagement.

2. The agency will give the supplier 4 weeks notice of termination.

Sorry, but that's so stupid as to deserve a "Aim to tell you" - if a contract said that you'd know that it meant nothing.

So you don't understand the point then...

[AtW]

1. We aim to tell you four weeks in advance that we will be terminating your current engagement.

And how notice period is phrased for the contractor - same kind of "aim to tell" but can quit any time on the client???

[SueEllen]

If a contractor is useless you get rid of them asap by removing work and using MOO, if you want to get rid of a contractor but potentially want to use them again you serve notice keeping everything polite.

MOO doesn't come into play here and neither does a notice clause simply because most contracts have competency clauses.

So if a contractor is proved to be incompetent the client can remove them immediately, and if they are stupid enough to opt-out you can refuse to pay them.

It's in the client's best interests to make sure this incompetence is clearly written down so if the contractor mentions court they can provide evidence.

[northernladuk]

If a contractor is useless you get rid of them asap by removing work and using MOO, if you want to get rid of a contractor but potentially want to use them again you serve notice keeping everything polite.

This isn't MoO... MoO is about offering work beyond the end of the current contract. Incognito put up some good posts about this point.

[Wanderer]

Hand up all those who can't differentiate between the following two statements:

1. We aim to tell you four weeks in advance that we will be terminating your current engagement.
2. There is no more paid work for you to do so please go home

I'm still waiting for you to answer the original question

Here it is again, quite nicely rephrased by Contreras:

Why do all the PCG/qdos contract templates specify a notice period if it's meaningless?

[northernladuk]

I'm still waiting for you to answer the original question

Here it is again, quite nicely rephrased by Contreras:

You could argue the same for most RoS as well to be fair but that is another arguable one.

The fact there is a notice period but no other detail about it throws it open to debate, one that only the lawers can argue. Most other contracts you come across detail it so it is much clearer. Maybe something PCG could either clarify or modify..

[malvolio]

I'm still waiting for you to answer the original question

Here it is again, quite nicely rephrased by Contreras:

Ask Lawspeed, they wrote them. And they can be modified to something mutually agreeable. But it doesn't affect my original point; if there's no work, you don't get paid. If you accept work that's not specified in your original (or an amended) contract just to fill in time, then that's an IR35 fail.