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    #41
    The Pacific has gone cold. It´s a cycle, so yes we´re seeing change over, but the pattern is now settled, cold winters cold summers. Compare this to 30 years it´s not at all unusual, but it is different to 10 years ago when the Pacific was warm... oh and watch the ice come back. Won´t happen overnight but it will, and that´s the point where the warmies run out of explanations.

    As for extremes no scientist can detect anything at the moment statistically no change. No increase in Tornado strength no increase in hurricane strength or frequency etc etc.

    ...and if you look in Newspapers in the archive back to the 18th century you would be amazed at how often scientists/explorers/farmers remark on climate change.

    The Vikings used to graze cattle in Greenland. A bit too chilly these days.

    It´s a cycle....it gets warm it gets cold it gets warm. So every generation complains the weather aint what was when he were a lad,
    I'm alright Jack

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      #42
      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
      Nice graph from pj, note the droop at the end there.

      I can tell from the posts of the "warmies" that they´re realising slowly the egg is spreading over their faces. By 2020 they´re really going to look stupid.

      It´s getting cold and it will get colder.
      It had bloody better not! I've put the winter woolies away and got the Biergarten shirts out ready
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #43
        Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
        Nice graph from pj, note the droop at the end there.

        I can tell from the posts of the "warmies" that they´re realising slowly the egg is spreading over their faces. By 2020 they´re really going to look stupid.

        It´s getting cold and it will get colder.
        If the polar caps melt and the Gulf Stream moves south, then yes, of course it will...

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          #44
          Maidenhead?
          I've just passed through Maidenhead on the train 10 minutes ago.
          Fortunately I was going at 125mph

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            #45
            Originally posted by Old Hack View Post
            If the polar caps melt and the Gulf Stream moves south, then yes, of course it will...
            The gulf stream hasn´t moved it´s still where it´s always been, and it won´t move.

            The theory of the gulf stream stopping is based on an incident at the end of the ice age where a huge lake, which incidentally caused the sea level to rise a couple of metres was poured into the Atlantic. For something similar to happen a major part of the Greenland ice sheet would have to collapse/melt. This wouldn´t happen in your life time, even with the most pessimistic projections.
            I'm alright Jack

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              #46
              Originally posted by Old Hack View Post
              If the polar caps melt and the Gulf Stream moves south, then yes, of course it will...
              Ice is at a high in the arctic for this time of year, and of course the ice in Antartica has been growing for over a decade.

              Dont forget the CAGW predictions - the arctic was supposed to be ice free by now.


              Winter is coming



              (\__/)
              (>'.'<)
              ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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                #47
                Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
                Ice is at a high in the arctic for this time of year, and of course the ice in Antartica has been growing for over a decade.

                Dont forget the CAGW predictions - the arctic was supposed to be ice free by now.


                Winter is coming

                Bloody TemporalPessimist
                Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Old Hack View Post
                  If the polar caps melt and the Gulf Stream moves south, then yes, of course it will...
                  How would that affect house prices?

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                    #49
                    I quite like the idea of an ice age. Although I can imagine it being quite chilly.
                    While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by pjclarke View Post
                      Huh?



                      Your data shows warming, this data does not show anywhere near as much.

                      Your data been through the East Anglian cherry picker algorithm?

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