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[Zippy]

Ditto in Germany. In the UK I think it's different which is obviously a problem for foreigners on bikes.

It's the only way we'll keep the numbers down.

Did see a French car (classic Renault) carefully going the wrong way round a roundabout in Stratford. The waiting drivers (being British) just rolled their eyes at each other and waited for him to finish.

[doodab]

Yet they are allowed onto the road with no insurance to cover the damage that they may cause and no requirement to understand the rules that are in place. It's hardly a sensible sceme is it?

The situation could certainly be improved. Actually enforcing the rules would be a good start, if we don't do that there is little hope of enforcing compulsory insurance or any sort of licensing scheme, and if drivers & pedestrians thought the rules were actually being enforced they would probably be less inclined to take matters into their own hands.

[Old Greg]

Happy to let them marry each other. They can't make more of a mockery of it than the heterosexuals have.

Bang goes that theory.

[darmstadt]

Although I think they've stopped it now but in Switzerland you used to have to have a 'velo vignette' for a bicycle which covered you for basic 3rd party insurance. Maybe that would make people think?

[Old Greg]

Although I think they've stopped it now but in Switzerland you used to have to have a 'velo vignette' for a bicycle which covered you for basic 3rd party insurance. Maybe that would make people think?

I don't mind cyclists. It's dog owners I can't stand - or at least the very many irresponsible ones. We could do with a ranked polling function so we can work out who our biggest villains are.

[darmstadt]

I don't mind cyclists. It's dog owners I can't stand - or at least the very many irresponsible ones. We could do with a ranked polling function so we can work out who our biggest villains are.

I don't think the CUK poll allows enough options for that

[bobspud]

I don't mind cyclists. It's dog owners I can't stand - or at least the very many irresponsible ones. We could do with a ranked polling function so we can work out who our biggest villains are.

I agree also. I have two large greyhounds and if I can manhandle their excessive turds into a little nappy bag then the ****** with little poodles can surely manage the same.

[jmo21]

Look there are idiots everywhere.

This is a hit and run we are talking about.

[Old Greg]

I agree also. I have two large greyhounds and if I can manhandle their excessive turds into a little nappy bag then the ****** with little poodles can surely manage the same.

My walking route from home into town is through a large park used by dog walkers. There are always dogs off their leads, one or two of which come bounding up to my small kids (4 and 2) jumping around them ignoring their owners calls to heel or whatever. The owner invariably gives me a cheery, 'Oh don't worry,he's very friendly and he loves children.' I am long past being polite, or explaining reasonably why their dogs should be under control and am nearly done with being merely rude.

[bobspud]

My walking route from home into town is through a large park used by dog walkers. There are always dogs off their leads, one or two of which come bounding up to my small kids (4 and 2) jumping around them ignoring their owners calls to heel or whatever. The owner invariably gives me a cheery, 'Oh don't worry,he's very friendly and he loves children.' I am long past being polite, or explaining reasonably why their dogs should be under control and am nearly done with being merely rude.

Unfortunately dog owners are a pain in the arse. Their little bundle of fun is the bestest niciest little cuddlefluff in the whole wide world. They don't give credence to the idea that anyone might be frightened of their animal or not wish to be accosted from across a field at 40 mph.

My sister-inlaw has a big black lab that after 3 years still does not walk to heal and has its paws and snout every inappropriate place possible. Yet the sodding animal can play dead roll over and shake hands. I have had more than one argument over it running into our house past the garden and pissing on the carpet. So now its banned. My dogs have grown up with small people so know that the way you say "hi" to a child is not by sticking your paws in their chest and laying them flat on their back. Unfortunately too many owner don't get the point that the dog isn't your friend, rather you are its master and it looks to you for guidance to its limits, so you need to set them!

As a responsible dog owner I say: "So very sorry on behalf of the other 60% of the community that dont take your feelings into account when they let their four legged rocket off the hook in public"