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[Mich the Tester]

Yes and I'm even sure that a few of them don't turn into utter fsckwits as soon as they don some lycra. But unfortunately for the good ones the crap ones stick out like a sore thumb.

I don't know if the problem is particularly about cyclists, but a general social phenomenon of too many people being incapable of showing consideration for others.

[bobspud]

I don't know if the problem is particularly about cyclists, but a general social phenomenon of too many people being incapable of showing consideration for others.

Our society is only about taking these days, why would the roads be any different?

[d000hg]

Cycling dangerously has no victims? Get serious!

THanks for clarifying that you are an idiot. Because two things have victims doesn't make them equal. If cycling dangerously is as bad as deliberately running down a cyclist, then presumably driving dangerously is as bad as deliberately running someone down too, or running a car off the road.

[bobspud]

THanks for clarifying that you are an idiot. Because two things have victims doesn't make them equal. If cycling dangerously is as bad as deliberately running down a cyclist, then presumably driving dangerously is as bad as deliberately running someone down too, or running a car off the road.

Are you saying its fine to run lights and crossings? Are you waiting for a pedestrian to get injured or killed before its wrong? How do you feel if you are on a crossing and a cyclist doesn't bother stopping and only just misses you? Cyclists should be treated harder than motor vehicle owners for the same offences because their recklessness is uninsured.

Damaging someone with a car already carries stiff penalties.

[doodab]

Dunno what the law is in UK, but here in NL a cyclist can undertake a car turning off, as priority is always for the road user who is carrying straight on on the same road. As I say, dunno in the UK, but be warned if you drive over here someday as the cyclist has every right to do that.

Oh yeah, I signal and give way etc. when on the bike as I don't want to die.

Ditto in Germany. In the UK I think it's different which is obviously a problem for foreigners on bikes.

[bobspud]

Ditto in Germany. In the UK I think it's different which is obviously a problem for foreigners on bikes.

Yet they are allowed onto the road with no insurance to cover the damage that they may cause and no requirement to understand the rules that are in place. It's hardly a sensible sceme is it?

At least when I was charging around Europe not knowing the rules I was backed with full company car insurance and a hefty public liability cover as well.

[darmstadt]

Where I am in Münster: Fahrradstadt Münster ,makes Holland look like the Sahara for cyclists but they are very well behaved along with the car drivers. There are thousands of cycle lanes, they have their own traffic lights and the police are always out and about nicking cyclists who don't follow the rules (i.e. no lights, jumping the traffic lights, cycling the wrong way down a cycle path, cycling on the pedestrian path, cycling across pedestrian crossings, etc.) I think they've got it pretty much down pat here with a healthy respect for each other although there are still the occasional idiots. Personally I'm tulip scared of most cyclists as I'm never too sure what they're going to do next so regardless of if I'm on foot or in a car, I take great care near them. I do however have a spring loaded passenger door and if any ****er cycles up the inside then, whap!

(In Darmstadt they made part of the pedestrian zone, cycle free but it didn't stop them cycling through it even after an old man was killed after being hit by cyclist and there have been a few serious injuries due to some ****wit inconsiderate cyclists. The local cycle club are some of the worst saying that they should be allowed to cycle there and that pedestrians should get out of the way, well maybe I would if I had mirrors built onto the side of my head, stupid *****!)

[vetran]

the police are always out and about nicking cyclists who don't follow the rules

I think you will find that is the missing bit. We pensioned all our traffic officers off and the foot patrols are dreaming of catching someone dropping litter.

[Old Greg]

Yet they are allowed onto the road with no insurance to cover the damage that they may cause and no requirement to understand the rules that are in place. It's hardly a sensible sceme is it?

At least when I was charging around Europe not knowing the rules I was backed with full company car insurance and a hefty public liability cover as well.

What are your views on legalising gay marriage?

[bobspud]

What are your views on legalising gay marriage?

Happy to let them marry each other. They can't make more of a mockery of it than the heterosexuals have.