Swivel-eyed loon speaks on gay marriage

[Mich the Tester]

Marriage certainly predates Judaeo-Christianity.

Stop wheeling out your 'facts'.

Stop telling other people to stop doing things you do.

[Old Greg]

Stop telling other people to stop doing things you do.

Shan't.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

So who is marriage for? You say it's a holy institution, which suggests you think it's only for people that practice a religion. Yet marriages have been being performed in registry offices for a long long time and for people with no religious convictions whatsoever, not to mention whilst sky diving naked (I saw it on telly so it must be true).

I never said it was only for people who practice a religion - there is no point lying to make your point here.

What I said is that many people who have some kind of faith still view it as a holy institution and one that is uniquely between a man and a woman. I totally respect whatever type of ceremony/ritual that involves for whoever it is.

I agree that if your outlook is such that all us humans are just pure animals (agree our physical make-up is animal) and we produced the concept of marriage then there is no need to limit it to man and woman. Actually there is no need to limit it in any way or form - let's just open up the whole thing and let anybody define it however they want. Why does it even matter if we are all animals?

Edit: Marriage in that case should be opened up to include incest, other animals, plants, objects and whatever other object somebody should want to "Marry".

[vetran]

How about Land Rovers? (I've seen the PB photo... )

huh?

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Marriage certainly predates Judaeo-Christianity.

Your making the assumption that Judaism/Christianity were the first religions....

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Roman Catholics don't believe marriage is for people who have previously been married.

You object to the idea that marriage is for everybody, so is marriage for people who have previously been married?

While I respect Roman Catholic view on marriage - it is a detail I don't agree with. But at the very least we can all come to a common basis for marriage which is that it is between a man and a woman and involves some kind of commitment.

[Old Greg]

While I respect Roman Catholic view on marriage - it is a detail I don't agree with. But at the very least we can all come to a common basis for marriage which is that it is between a man and a woman and involves some kind of commitment.

But we have changed marriage with the introduction of divorce. Presumably that was a mistake because it was changing the fundamental nature of marriage? Or was that change OK, but no more changes allowed?

What about the change from polygamy to monogamy? Didn't Solomon have 1000 wives? Was that change OK?

[MaryPoppins]

Only to you - the idea of marrying your same sex seems just as foreign to most people....

Don't presume to speak on my behalf.

[vetran]

Did you not read what I said? the basic principle is that it is between a man and a woman - this is agreed upon by all religions/faiths.

Wikipedia calls you a liar!

Various faith communities around the world support allowing same-sex couples to marry and/or conduct same-sex marriage ceremonies; for example: Quakers, American Episcopalians, the Metropolitan Community Church, the United Church of Christ, the United Church of Canada, Buddhism in Australia, Reform and Conservative Jews, Wiccans, Druids, Unitarian Universalists, and Native American religions with a two-spirit tradition, as well as various progressive and modern Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jewish groups and various minor religions and other denominations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

[Old Greg]

Wikipedia calls you a liar!

Various faith communities around the world support allowing same-sex couples to marry and/or conduct same-sex marriage ceremonies; for example: Quakers, American Episcopalians, the Metropolitan Community Church, the United Church of Christ, the United Church of Canada, Buddhism in Australia, Reform and Conservative Jews, Wiccans, Druids, Unitarian Universalists, and Native American religions with a two-spirit tradition, as well as various progressive and modern Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jewish groups and various minor religions and other denominations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

He's not a liar, just an idiot.