No longer a wasted Vote

[AtW]

I reckon only tax payers should be allowed to vote.

No representation without taxation!

Aye.

And number of votes should be same as amount of tax paid less benefits received.

He who pays the fiddler...

[Mich the Tester]

Yuman rites of terrorists and asylum seekers

etc.

Which particular human rights do you feel should be taken away from people seeking asylum? And which particular human rights should be removed from people who are alleged to have committed crimes?

And what on earth has gay marriage to do with Marxism?

[KaiserWilly]

Which particular human rights do you feel should be taken away from people seeking asylum? And which particular human rights should be removed from people who are alleged to have committed crimes?

For a start, the entire "yuman rites" thing is a French Marxist construction that should be scrapped.

Secondly, 99.99% of asylum seekers are economic refugees seeking benefits and an easy life.

And what on earth has gay marriage to do with Marxism?

The goal of Marxism is to destroy Western society. It started with religion, followed with nation and now it wants to finish the job with family.

If you destroy religion, nation and family, what do you have left?

The state, the god of Marxists.

[vetran]

Which particular human rights do you feel should be taken away from people seeking asylum? And which particular human rights should be removed from people who are alleged to have committed crimes?

And what on earth has gay marriage to do with Marxism?

Its difficult to see why people who have arrived here via Europe (thereby not being qualified to seek asylum), preach treason and or break laws should have the right to stay here despite their home country providing assurances they will be safe.

Its a bit like me depositing poop in the Managers office at McDonalds and insisting I have the right to stay in there because I have adopted their cat or got one of the staff pregnant.

The handling of Gay Marriage by all the main parties has been atrocious. FFS its pretty darn simple, if they can have a relationship they can form a legal partnership that is equivalent to a heterosexual marriage. Labour & the Tories screwed it up twice.

[Mich the Tester]

For a start, the entire "yuman rites" thing is a French Marxist construction that should be scrapped.

Secondly, 99.99% of asylum seekers are economic refugees seeking benefits and an easy life.



The goal of Marxism is to destroy Western society. It started with religion, followed with nation and now it wants to finish the job with family.

If you destroy religion, nation and family, what do you have left?

The state, the god of Marxists.

Erm, human rights arguably did really get started in France, during the enlightenment, but British philosophers played a role too, particularly in defending the individual against the state. The post war human rights treaties were largely drawn up by or at the behest of Winston Churchill; not exactly a French Marxist.

As for your 99.99% claim, obviously you have superior sources of information to anyone else. I don't know. Some are probably faking it, some aren't.

As for Marxism destroying the family and religion, how, precisely, do two blokes bumming each other, or two women going at it together ruin the family? We can all still choose to live with a member of the opposite sex and raise a family; nobody is trying to stop you or me doing that. Both Lady Tester and I come from so-called traditional families and among our friends we know gay people who are married; at no point has that threatened to destroy our relationship or our families.

[DimPrawn]

Anyway, basically this is a WAKE UP call for the Tories.

Continue your EU love in, your tolerance in mass (unchecked) immigration, your fiddling with benefits and red tape, your laissez-faire attitude to the casino bankers, the shoulder shrugging on increasing public debt, your pursuance of "climate change" taxation increases, and goodbye to any chance of power.

[Mich the Tester]

Its difficult to see why people who have arrived here via Europe (thereby not being qualified to seek asylum), preach treason and or break laws should have the right to stay here despite their home country providing assurances they will be safe.

Its a bit like me depositing poop in the Managers office at McDonalds and insisting I have the right to stay in there because I have adopted their cat or got one of the staff pregnant.

It is indeed somewhat intriguing that people might cross Europe to seek asylum in the UK, seeing as there are other countries on the way which can offer it. I can think of reasons why some people would do that; Britain does actually still enjoy a good reputation for the rule of law, and some European countries don't, but I can believe that the asylum system is abused. I also find the likes of Abu Hookhand, or whatever the idiot's name is, offensive and I'd rather he just fooked off. But you can't go judging thousands of others on a couple of individual cases; unfortunately for some, people in the past thought to saddle Britain with a constitutional arrangement that assumes someone hasn't broken the law until it's proven that he has. That arrangement has it's inconveniences. I'd rather live with the inconveniences than alter that arrangement.

[doodab]

For a start, the entire "yuman rites" thing is a French Marxist construction that should be scrapped.

You mean those well known French Marxists Winston Churchill & Franklin D Roosevelt?

The goal of Marxism is to destroy Western society. It started with religion, followed with nation and now it wants to finish the job with family

Well, they will have to overcome those well known French Marxists who wrote the universal declaration of human rights then.

The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State

[d000hg]

Seems like DP is complaining the Tories are too left-wing, too liberal and too capitalist all at once.

[doodab]

As for Marxism destroying the family and religion, how, precisely, do two blokes bumming each other, or two women going at it together ruin the family?

Marxism has obviously changed a lot since I were a lad...