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    #51
    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Don't know some of the prisoners manage very quickly likewise some get on with particular prison officers.
    Some escape.

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      #52
      Originally posted by vetran View Post
      Expand the open prison system with more tagging to transition, get them jobs they will be less trouble to society.
      What do you do with the drug addicts?

      A lot of them won't be violent but tagging them and getting them a job is a waste of time as they will break the curfew and steal from the job if they turn up.

      Trying to rehabilitate them unless they are ready is a waste of time and money.

      You can't leave them on the street as they will just carry on with their stealing from shops and breaking into peoples houses to feed their habit.

      Also all your ideas cost more money than governments want to spend and most voters would approve.
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        #53
        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        What do you do with the drug addicts?

        A lot of them won't be violent but tagging them and getting them a job is a waste of time as they will break the curfew and steal from the job if they turn up.

        Trying to rehabilitate them unless they are ready is a waste of time and money.

        You can't leave them on the street as they will just carry on with their stealing from shops and breaking into peoples houses to feed their habit.

        Also all your ideas cost more money than governments want to spend and most voters would approve.
        The first time an addict hits prison is their 'rock bottom'. That's the time for intensive rehab. Miss that, and you've missed the opportunity. Key is then support on the outside. Most first time addicts get short sentences, therefore zilch in the way of support. Tagging doesn't help - the dealers know exactly where to find them, and they're stuck at home bored.

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          #54
          Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
          What do you do with the drug addicts?

          A lot of them won't be violent but tagging them and getting them a job is a waste of time as they will break the curfew and steal from the job if they turn up.

          Trying to rehabilitate them unless they are ready is a waste of time and money.

          You can't leave them on the street as they will just carry on with their stealing from shops and breaking into peoples houses to feed their habit.

          Also all your ideas cost more money than governments want to spend and most voters would approve.
          There is a lot of good research to say that if the cost of a keeping someone in prison is instead spent on rehabilitation, proper rehab, its much more effective, its just bad politics with the Daily Mail readers spending on anything other then more prisions
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            #55
            Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
            What do you do with the drug addicts?

            A lot of them won't be violent but tagging them and getting them a job is a waste of time as they will break the curfew and steal from the job if they turn up.

            Trying to rehabilitate them unless they are ready is a waste of time and money.

            You can't leave them on the street as they will just carry on with their stealing from shops and breaking into peoples houses to feed their habit.

            Also all your ideas cost more money than governments want to spend and most voters would approve.
            Every one they turn away from crime will probably save millions. Get them first time and turn them around they can be saved.

            No Drugs in prison full stop.

            Anyone taking drugs stay in prison. If the prison officers are bringing it in they can be locked up as well.

            reduce offending and lock up criminals and costs will fall.

            Every slightly serious incident costs tens of thousands to resolve. Lock up or cure repeat offenders and you will save a fortune.

            Bit old but I doubt the percentages have changed much:

            BBC News | UK | Cost of crime hits £60bn

            Though wounding accounts for only 1% of all crimes, it accounts for more than a quarter of the cost of crime at an estimated £15.6 billion a year, according to the Home Office.

            It is the first time that the government has tried to collate figures on the cost of crime.

            On average a violent crime involving wounding costs £19,000 comprising pain and loss for the victim, medical costs and police investigation time.
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