Not in my name - Poll added by NAT

[eek]

And what's the problem with that if the payment is for things like garbage collection, edukation - do people who live in mansions have a lot more children or generate a lot more rubbish, are there LOTS of such rich people in the first place?

No but rich people in rich houses can afford to pay more. Also its a lot easier to identify a property to tax than the people inside it.

[Alf W]

Why the f should we pay for the Wicked Witch's funeral? It's a final kick in the teeth.

Keep it up, guys. I can hear Alex Salmond chuckling from here.

I'm more than happy to contribute to seeing a lid put on the old witch. We can all then move on and the Thatcher apologists can all become Cameron apologists.

[AtW]

No but rich people in rich houses can afford to pay more.

They can afford to pay more to buy same petrol and same food in the shops.

Perhaps everybody should have an ID card that determines their status -
1) Loser: -50% to all prices
2) Middle Class - prices unchanged
3) Rich Barsteward - +200% to all prices

That would be grand, innit?

[eek]

They can afford to pay more to buy same petrol and same food in the shops.

Perhaps everybody should have an ID card that determines their status -
1) Loser: -50% to all prices
2) Middle Class - prices unchanged
3) Rich Barsteward - +200% to all prices

That would be grand, innit?

You are aware of how the new irish rates system works.

Its a percentage of the price you paid for the property. Because old prices were not available the solution they adopted was:-

1) you specify the value of the house.
2) this needs to be disclosed at the time you come to sell the house.

[AtW]

You are aware of how the new irish rates system works.

No idea.

But I am well aware of their much lower corp tax rates

[AtW]

To put it clearly, I am not at the moment criticising poll tax, I am condemning the way England governs Scotland. And especially the way Thatcher governed Scotland.

You make it sound like Thatcher demanded right of first night with the finest of Scottish men and you were not included.

I was not in this country at the time but given council tax tulip I'd say that poll tax made perfect sense.

Poll/council tax should be offset against income tax paid by the household - only those who pay **** all income tax should be liable for it in the first place.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

My problem is what I said in my post. That it was imposed on Scotland first, and opposition was ignored. Then when the English opposed it, it was withdrawn.

To put it clearly, I am not at the moment criticising poll tax, I am condemning the way England governs Scotland. And especially the way Thatcher governed Scotland.

I agree. And I'm English. It was shameful the way she victimised any area where she had no electoral support.

Also, considering all the Thatcher apologists claims about "small government" it was an admin nightmare - that was what ultimately sank it, because no government could have enforced it.

I expect the TV licence to go the same way.

[ZARDOZ]

it was an admin nightmare - that was what ultimately sank it, because no government could have enforced it.

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True, you can't hide your house, but you can as an individual disappear, as numerous people did.

[AtW]

It was shameful the way she victimised any area where she had no electoral support.

So, what do you think her motivation was - punish people who did not vote for her by introducing some tax 1 year early?

[AtW]

True, you can't hide your house, but you can as an individual disappear, as numerous people did.

Well, if you disappear and don't claim any benefits or services offered to honest taxpayers, then **** it - this is a break even point for the state.

Personally the biggest mistake in my view Thatcher did was to snatch away milk from children in school - just WTF was she thinking?