What to do with Qatada?

[shaunbhoy]

I'm not quite sure why so many believe the Judiciary AND the Government are determined to intentionally persecute innocent men?

Maybe because of incidents like the Birmingham 6 and the Guildford 4, to name but two?

[amcdonald]

Maybe because of incidents like the Birmingham 6 and the Guildford 4, to name but two?

Or three if you count the Renault 5

[AtW]

So basically his crimes are encouraging terrorism, and buying some terrorists a computer. Does that make him a terrorist? And the evidence in both is from people who were probably tortured until they said what they were told to say.

It did not make him a terrorist, but it certainly made him the kind of person whose presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good - he had NO RIGHT to stay here in the first place.

Now the risk of him being tortured in his own country is his problem since he did not behave well here when he was given a chance. The he wasted lots of taxpayer money on his crazy defense.

[d000hg]

one down plenty more to go.

I see no reason why we should keep the world's terrorists in comfort.

If Qatada is truly innocent (his publicly recorded actions in the UK suggest he isn't) then I look forward to welcoming him back.

I'm not quite sure why so many believe the Judiciary AND the Government are determined to intentionally persecute innocent men?

There are definitely no cases of corrupt governments falsifying charges to imprison or kill dissidents or anyone they disapprove of. Ask AtW, it certainly never happened in Russia for instance.

[stek]

Or three if you count the Renault 5

What about the Weatherfield One?

[VectraMan]

It did not make him a terrorist, but it certainly made him the kind of person whose presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good

That may be true, but the question is who gets to decide? The whole thing smacks of Theresa May chucking someone out of the country because she doesn't like them, which I don't think is acceptable in a "free" country.

Now the risk of him being tortured in his own country is his problem since he did not behave well here when he was given a chance.

No point having principles about torture if you hand people over to those who would torture them.

The he wasted lots of taxpayer money on his crazy defense.

No point having any rule of law at all if you don't allow people to defend themselves. His "defense" [sic] was that the UK government was breaking its own laws, which it clearly was. Do you suggest we should allow politicians to ignore the law whenever they feel like it?

[amcdonald]

No point having any rule of law at all if you don't allow people to defend themselves. His "defense" [sic] was that the UK government was breaking its own laws, which it clearly was. Do you suggest we should allow politicians to ignore the law whenever they feel like it?

Nah he's just the Hess of his time, he knew what he was doing and knows how to play the legal system.

[vetran]

1975 was far less open than 2013, fitting up people was far more common and the level of available information was much less. Having grown up near Guildford I can understand (but cannot support) the rush to get a conviction, that is something we seem to have got better at preventing in the last 40 years.

Qatada has preached hate and was here illegally. There is reasonable suspicion he was involved in Terrorism we don't need him, we don't have to keep him. One assumes if squatters move into your house you would be happy to keep them there as they aren't convicted terrorists?

[AtW]

That may be true, but the question is who gets to decide? The whole thing smacks of Theresa May chucking someone out of the country because she doesn't like them, which I don't think is acceptable in a "free" country.

Home Secretary decides who won't get visa - he/she can even stop EU citizens from getting here if she feels like it.

No point having principles about torture if you hand people over to those who would torture them.

Good principles should not be abused.

Anybody who has run away from torture to get safe heaven in this country should be on their fooking best behavior at all times and aim to become a productive tax paying resident of this country.

Qatada was a scumbag parasite who spit at the welcome this country gave him - if he ends up being tortured in his own country then it would be entirely his fault.

[minestrone]

I have worked with the police a few times, they are seriously thick, I would have to say they were the thickest end users I have ever worked with and I was working with the highly promoted ones where you would think there was some brains. Frighteningly stupid.