Is it ever going to get less cold?

[pjclarke]

Greenhouse effect

http://principia-scientific.org/publ...use_Effect.pdf

Yawn.

This work makes extraordinary claims and yet no effort was made to put it in a real climate science journal, since it was never intended to educate climate scientists or improve the field; it is a sham, intended only to confuse casual readers and provide a citation on blogs. The author should be ashamed.

Joseph Postma and the greenhouse effect

[hyperD]

Yawn.


Joseph Postma and the greenhouse effect

See Prawn?!? See!?!?!

Look what you've done! You've awoken the sleeping snarker and unleashed the full fury of the link porn gun!

You were warned...

[pjclarke]

More link pron.



Figure 1: The temperature reconstruction of Shakun et al (green – shifted manually by 0.25 degrees), of Marcott et al (blue), combined with the instrumental period data from HadCRUT4 (red) and the model average of IPCC projections for the A1B scenario up to 2100 (orange).

Nothin' remotely out of the ordinary going on, oh no...

A Reconstruction of Regional and Global Temperature for the Past 11,300 Years

[BlasterBates]

Figure 1: The temperature reconstruction of Shakun et al (green – shifted manually by 0.25 degrees), of Marcott et al (blue), combined with the instrumental period data from HadCRUT4 (red) and the model average of IPCC projections for the A1B scenario up to 2100 (orange).

Nothin' remotely out of the ordinary going on, oh no...

A Reconstruction of Regional and Global Temperature for the Past 11,300 Years

It´s been discredited already...

Playing hockey – blowing the whistle | Climate Etc.

...basically he produced a Phd thesis without a hockey stick, and then added one from dubious fiddling with the data.



nice try pj...

[pjclarke]

I look forward to this rebuttal being published, but the point of Marcott et al is not the uptick at the end - we know what happened last century from clever devices known as thermometers, indeed the authors themselves warn against relying on their plot after about 1900, hence the HADCRUT data. Duh!

Without filling data gaps, our Standard 5×5 reconstruction (Fig. 1A) exhibits 0.6 °C greater warming over the past ~60 yr B.P. (1890 to 1950 CE) than our equivalent infilled 5° × 5° area-weighted mean stack (Fig. 1, C and D). However, considering the temporal resolution of our data set and the small number of records that cover this interval (Fig. 1G), this difference is probably not robust.

The 'discrediting' was right there in the paper!

[DimPrawn]

Is there any weather event/climate graph that can disprove "CO2 climate change"?

It seems to me the snowfalls can be a thing of the past and heavier snowfalls can be a thing of the future and they both prove it's CO2.

Spring can arrive early, on time or not at all and it's CO2.

Britain can become a desert or a frozen wasteland and it's CO2.

It can rain lots, a bit or hardly at all and it all points to CO2.

Heatwave or lack of heatwave, CO2 mate.


What on earth has to occur or not occur to disprove this obvious nonsense dressed up as some kind of science?

Seems to me it's a religion. Nothing can prove it and by the same token, nothing can disprove it.

[sasguru]

Seems to me...

And therein lies your mistake.
Taking yourself seriously when all the evidence in your life so far has suggested you're not very bright.
You'll be using that other fallback of the bar-room philosopher soon: "...stands to reason, innit".

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Is there any weather event/climate graph that can disprove "CO2 climate change"?

It seems to me the snowfalls can be a thing of the past and heavier snowfalls can be a thing of the future and they both prove it's CO2.

Spring can arrive early, on time or not at all and it's CO2.

Britain can become a desert or a frozen wasteland and it's CO2.

It can rain lots, a bit or hardly at all and it all points to CO2.

Heatwave or lack of heatwave, CO2 mate.


What on earth has to occur or not occur to disprove this obvious nonsense dressed up as some kind of science?

Seems to me it's a religion. Nothing can prove it and by the same token, nothing can disprove it.

The point they are making is that CO2 is messing the weather up.... I find that difficult to disagree with. We now have 2 seasons: winter and rain.

[pjclarke]

The CUK Golden Oldie soundbite 'snowfall will be a thing of the past' was pretty much made up by the journalist in a pisspoor piece of science journalism, I challenged anyone to come up with a contemperaneous primary source (academic journal, IPCC report) that was actually saying this and the predictable reply was


Pretty much the same thing applies to half of the points presented.

[BlasterBates]

The weather always gets messed up, through the centuries.

Check this video out which I found posted on Professor Judith Curry´s website.

Very interesting how f****ed up weather and a changing climate caused lots of problems for our ancestors hundreds years ago. Sound familiar? particularly the bit about the it raining solid for 5 years. It´s going to get a lot worse if the sun really does stay quiet.