Spring seems to have sprung

[EternalOptimist]

That's a possibility.
Another possibility is that climate scientists are right and you are too thick/too poorly educated/have poor judgement/have no analytical skills/are too biased* to assess the validity of their claims.
I'm not going to waste too much time wondering which is more likely.

*select one or all.

all your scarey graphs dont look so scarey when there is a zero baseline

[BolshieBastard]

Spring doesnt start until the March equinox. It has nothing to do with temperature or the first warm day.

Here.

[sasguru]

all your scarey graphs dont look so scarey when there is a zero baseline

So you think taking two temps far apart gives you a baseline? You're even thicker than I thought.

[sasguru]

Maybe he should go back because it´s currently 10 degrees below average at the moment...



Oh dear doesn´t fit does it...



It´s not proof of a cooling world but it is consistent with the predictions that the globe will cool.

Feck me, you're really arguing that because it's cooler in early March, than its average over the 10 days, somehown global warming doesn't exist?


Are you and EO in the battle of the fookwits?
I think I'll leave you cretins to make my point of your stupidity manifest.

[DodgyAgent]

Feck me, you're really arguing that because it's cooler in early March, than its average over the summer, somehown global warming doesn't exist?


Are you and EO in the battle of the fookwits?
I think I'll leave you cretins to make my point of your stupidity manifest.

So PJ Clarke is your sockie?

[sasguru]

and the head of the IPCC


no warming for 17 years - pachuri

ah yes, that cherry-picked misquote.

Resolving Confusion Over the Met Office Statement and Continued Global Warming
Global warming: has the rise in temperatures 'paused'? | Environment | guardian.co.uk

[eek]

Do we have enough accurate history to know things are changing and that we aren't in the middle of a long (200, 500) year cycle?

Are you sure you've got enough facts around you to confirm your hypothesis (not that I care one way or another as I think we are in a mini ice age ala 1790 to 1830 thanks to the sun).

Sas,

I notice you've ignored the comments above and I know how much you're enjoying insulting others but could you can explain why you are making statements based on evidence which you claim to be complete and clearly isn't.

[sasguru]

Sas,

I notice you've ignored the comments above and I know how much you're enjoying insulting others but could you can explain why you are making statements based on evidence which you claim to be complete and clearly isn't.

Your comments reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of science. No evidence is "complete", no theory is "proven". You can only prove theories in mathematics.
What a scientific theory should do is provide testable predictions.
Now people have been banging on about global warming for years, based on a simple verifiable experiment that CO2 raises temperatures (you can find a simple experiment to check this with your kids on the internet).
And as I have posted in an earler post extreme weather events (which if they continue make up "climate") seem to be on the up, whether they be droughts in Africa, extreme heatwaves in the US or Oz, flooding in NY and Bangladesh etc etc.
Here's a testable prediction: there will be some very unusual (in the sense that it will break centuries' old records) freak weather event this year in more than one place on the planet.
What I find interesting is that "money" which originally was vocal about denying climate change has now changed its mind, leaving some silly luddites who fell for the propaganda looking very silly.

[DimPrawn]

Spring doesnt start until the March equinox. It has nothing to do with temperature or the first warm day.

Here.

No, there is no official definition of when Spring, Summer, Autumn or Winter starts or finishes.

The Spring equinox is merely the daylight hours and darkness being equal length, which occurs "in" Spring.

It's a bit like saying the Summer Solstace is the start of Summer, when clearly it is not the start or end of Summer.

HTH BIDI

[eek]

Your comments reveal a fundamental misunderstanding of science. No evidence is "complete", no theory is "proven". You can only prove theories in mathematics.
What a scientific theory should do is provide testable predictions.
Now people have been banging on about global warming for years, based on a simple verifiable experiment that CO2 raises temperatures (you can find a simple experiment to check this with your kids on the internet).
And as I have posted in an earler post extreme weather events (which if they continue make up "climate") seem to be on the up, whether they be droughts in Africa, extreme heatwaves in the US or Oz, flooding in NY and Bangladesh etc etc.
Here's a testable prediction: there will be some very unusual (in the sense that it will break centuries' old records) freak weather event this year in more than one place on the planet.

No I don't have a fundamental lack of knowledge about science. What I have an issue with is the idea that current events are very unusual when we have little evidence going back more than 100 years.

Granted the last few years have been different to the proceeding 100 but that doesn't mean that the last few years have been the unusual years, it could be the case that the relatively stable 20th century was the unusual period.