Stop these racist rants in this forum ..!

[DodgyAgent]

Yes but we are also better.

Racist

[BoredBloke]

Lots of them in Germany. I've noticed a trend here where some agencies are advertising in the UK because UK contractors are cheaper than Germans!

When I worked in Geneva it was a similar thing. They could get brits to fill a scarce resource out there. The difference was that we didn't undercut the locals as we were about the same rate, if not more and we could do the job!

[sasguru]

Racist

Actually, culturalist. The Germans educate their low to mid-range people much better than we do, with apprenticeships and the like, but not necessarily their best and brightest who used to spend until their 30s, "studying".
Don't know what's it like like now, but judging from the high level shaming of German politicians who plagiarised their PhDs, I'm guessing lots of German degrees are as worthless as the ones we created here from from the 90s onwards.

[DodgyAgent]

Actually, culturalist. The Germans educate their low to mid-range people much better than we do, with apprenticeships and the like, but not necessarily their best and brightest who used to spend until their 30s, "studying".
Don't know what's it like like now, but judging from the high level shaming of German politicians who plagiarised their PhDs, I'm guessing lots of German degrees are as worthless as the ones we created here from from the 90s onwards.

clevercloggist!

[eek]

They could get brits to fill a scarce resource out there. The difference was that we didn't undercut the locals as we were about the same rate, if not more and we could do the job!

And that is the problem in a paragraph. Instead of using ICT to get skills that are not available here they use it to get readily available skills cheaper.

[sasguru]

And that is the problem in a paragraph. Instead of using ICT to get skills that are not available here they use it to get readily available skills cheaper.

Commodity skills will always go to the cheapest bidder.

[eek]

Commodity skills will always go to the cheapest bidder.

Which is fine if everyone is playing by the same rules which the outsourcing agents aren't.

And the best / only advice for this situation is to change the game you're trying to play. Don't worry I'm well on the way of doing that.

[SupremeSpod]

Commodity skills will always go to the cheapest bidder. However if you have real 1337 skillz and you're not just a script kiddy you can earn loads, init?

ftfy

That's what you really meant to say, wasn't it?

[minestrone]

It is annoying that people who are clearly not in any way capable get landed in your working sphere and worse still when that impacts on you.

It is annoying when the bobs are presenting qualifications that they obviously do not have, the outsourcing firm presenting these people to the company knowing full well they are useless.

But most annoying of all are the corporations that fall for these tricks time after time after time. The outsourcing firms must be falling about laughing at the stuff they get away with.

Personally they don't bother me too much until their uselessness causes something to go tits up, then they do that shaky head thing and the "I know I am useless" smile and expect you to clean it up, at that point I want to boot them in the nads.

[SupremeSpod]

It is annoying that people who are clearly not in any way capable get landed in your working sphere and worse still when that impacts on you.

It is annoying when the bobs are presenting qualifications that they obviously do not have, the outsourcing firm presenting these people to the company knowing full well they are useless.

But most annoying of all are the corporations that fall for these tricks time after time after time. The outsourcing firms must be falling about laughing at the stuff they get away with.

Personally they don't bother me too much until their uselessness causes something to go tits up, then they do that shaky head thing and the "I know I am useless" smile and expect you to clean it up, at that point I want to boot them in the nads.

Keep calm and carry on invoicing.