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    #11
    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    That's it. You're fired!
    You can't fire me, I'm a contractor


    Should you wish to terminte the supply contract betweens yourselves and MyCo. Ltd that is of course your perogative subject to the usual contractual requirements.
    "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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      #12
      Got the same here now. PM here is going to 'escalate' something because its running past schedule and I haven't done it yet.

      I've pointed that since other things have come in considered urgent and I've perfectly justified what I've been doing, then its not a surprise to me. I've also politely pointed that there is only so much time in the day.

      Client seems to think that things get done regardless of hours. The way the permies get treated in terms of working long hours is nuts.

      Really tempted to say your lack of resourcing is not my problem but, of course, you can't say that.....

      Normally, I'm happy to work a few odd hours per week for free because they're pretty good. But not weekends for free and the buggers wont pay.
      Also, wife been pretty ill recently (and is pregnant) so client aint priority at the moment (and never is really).
      Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by psychocandy View Post

        Really tempted to say your lack of resourcing is not my problem but, of course, you can't say that.....
        My line is "if you need more resource, I can recommend someone."

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          #14
          Originally posted by eek View Post
          $1.5m to migrate a Lotus 123 spreadsheet to Microsoft Excel. A bargain in anyones book.
          Thats a bargain we are trying to get a very simple E-commerce solution up and running - £5 million......

          I think someone is on the take -- do you?

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            #15
            thing is all the pressure comes from the people at the top making decisions without understanding the impact and then acting like spoilt fooking brats when they cannot get everything they want now!

            and then when you sit in meetings they seem to believe that by shouting things will change

            some fookers gonna get a good dig at some point.

            idiots!

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              #16
              Originally posted by original PM View Post
              Thats a bargain we are trying to get a very simple E-commerce solution up and running - £5 million......

              I think someone is on the take -- do you?
              What platform? Even a simple e-commerce website can become a monster if you've decided to use something like ATG to implement it.

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                #17
                It's always the same root cause though. Lack of communication.
                What happens in General, stays in General.
                You know what they say about assumptions!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                  Is that actually available? I want...
                  Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by zeitghost
                    Damn right.

                    No payee, no workee.

                    I remember the philips pager place in Cambridge wanted "commitment" from contractors & they wouldn't pay overtime either.

                    It was not a meeting of minds.

                    ZeitPater told me not to bother going there for interview & he was right.
                    Total Bollacks that is. I'm commited yeh for the time they pay me and commited to my companies income....

                    I think I'll walk into tesco next time and tell them I expect them to be committed to my cause of filling my food cupboard for free.
                    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                      #20
                      I had a run in with a permie (one of those "daddy's princess" types), who thought I was just a lowly developer. She complained about me to her boss when I wouldn't do some work she wanted doing. That boss escalated it to the CIO, who found a minion to put a flea in her ear.
                      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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