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    Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
    Surely it is easy to render an all powerful god logically flawed.

    Can he cook a curry too hot for himself to eat?

    Yes (for whatever reason) - then he is not all powerful
    No (for whatever reason) - then he is not all poweful
    Omnipotent means being able to do whatever is not logically inconsistent. What you propose is not logically consistent, therefore God's inability to do it does not mean he is not omnipotent.

    Your proposal is like the statement "This statement is false". Grammatically correct, but semantically meaningless.

    Originally posted by Gibbon View Post
    Good and Evil and subjective so you can always argue your way out...
    That is essentially an argument that Evil doesn't really exist. Christianity maintains that there is an objective good/evil dichotomy, so your argument doesn't work there either.

    Explain why God would allow a wild animal to be caught in a forest fire and die of its burns in agony over a few days.
    Explain why God didn't intervene when Mengele was experimenting on new born babies.

    These are proper hard questions.
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
      All prayers are answered?

      Then why has God never healed an amputee? Has no one ever prayed for one or has the answer always been 'no'?

      Have you ever prayed and gained information that you did not already know?

      Obviously, you cannot pray to anything and find out the number I am thinking of (I am thinking of one just in case you try) - what would your excuse be?
      I don't pray, I'm just taking the piss.

      Hth.

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        Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
        I don't pray, I'm just taking the piss.

        Hth.
        *sigh* DOH - hook, line and sinker
        "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

        https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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          All prayers are answered.

          This is a automated reply. All our saints and prophets are busy. Your prayer is important to us, please try later or use the local church for a nominal donation.
          "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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            Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
            Omnipotent means being able to do whatever is not logically inconsistent. What you propose is not logically consistent, therefore God's inability to do it does not mean he is not omnipotent.
            Sure it does. It shows he is bound by logic and is therefore not omnipotent.
            "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

            https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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              The amputation argument is another red herring. Perhaps amputees have been healed. There's one such miracle reported in the bible, and the catholic church has certainly recorded some over the years. I wouldn't be surprised at all if medicine discovered a way of causing limbs to regrow, which would be really cool. A spontaneous regrowth would be taken by some as evidence of a miracle, but others wouldn't.

              Miracles do not prove God. To some they are evidence. Atheists would seek a naturalistic cause. Again - it's a matter of choosing what to believe.
              Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                Omnipotent means being able to do whatever is not logically inconsistent. What you propose is not logically consistent, therefore God's inability to do it does not mean he is not omnipotent.

                Your proposal is like the statement "This statement is false". Grammatically correct, but semantically meaningless.
                Does god need to be logically consistent?
                While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                  The amputation argument is another red herring. Perhaps amputees have been healed.
                  It is not a red herring. Amputees have been prayed for over the years by many people and have not been healed at any point in recorded history. God seems to hate amputees?


                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                  A spontaneous regrowth would be taken by some as evidence of a miracle, but an atheist would still choose not believe.
                  You cannot chose to believe or not. It is subconscious. If there is enough evidence I will believe something, I can try to deny it etc but belief is belief.

                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                  Miracles do not prove God. To some they are evidence. To others, they'll seek a naturalistic cause. Again - it's a matter of choosing what to believe.
                  If God were to produce a miracle which simply shattered the laws of nature as we see them it would certainly make him a lot more plausible. He did it many many times before video cameras and camera phones were invented in the OT.
                  "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

                  https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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                    Jeez is username back on the amputee thing again? Has he already done genocide and "God should be able to make the bible totally unambiguous to everyone living over several millenia"?

                    I'm sure he's a bot with about 4 pre-canned questions coming in some pseudo-random order.
                    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                    Originally posted by vetran
                    Urine is quite nourishing

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                      Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
                      It shows he is bound by logic and is therefore not omnipotent.
                      That's based on your interpretation of the meaning of omnipotence which immediately leads to a logical inconsistency. It's a grammatically correct interpretation, but semantically empty.

                      Theists define God's omnipotence as meaning he as able to do anything except what is contrary to his nature, or is a logical inconsistency.
                      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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