Healthcare - NHS/Private

[DodgyAgent]

Dodgy,

Dont like agreeing with agents normally ;-)

But you are spot on here. No-one is 'allowed' to complain about the good old' NHS because its the wonderful NHS.

As others have pointed out, they just don't deal with complaints if they can help it.

The NHS is worse than a large bank. It is too big to fail. It is an Orwellian institution that no one should dare to criticise and no one should dare to change.

[vetran]

Maybe if all the nurses weren't heading for "Commodore, Consultant, High Flying, nurse, Practitioner - Consultant first class' then maybe some of them might do some nursing.

A hospital is basically a Hotel & SPA administratively, why are they so bad at running something so simple.

[SueEllen]

While all this may on some level be true it is really a sidetrack to put anyone off trying to reform the system. This message basically tells us two things. Give us more money or stop complaining (how much is enough? and secondly that the entire service is run for the benefit for those who run it and work in it ("choice is not the answer").

Not everyone who has told me the issues with the NHS works directly for the NHS.

A lot of auxiliary staff who have some responsibility for patient welfare are from external companies.


Their management are a joke as they only care about money so don't give a damn whether the staff do their job to a high standard or even adequately, as long as the staff manage to get the right service boxes ticked for their work.

[sasguru]

With no sense of irony whatsover the NHS website proudly boasts of being the 3rd largest employer in the world (after the Chinese army and Indian railways). Did no one stop to ask themselves if that seems to be a little bloated for a smallish island on the fringes of Europe?

[d000hg]

I dunno Sas, I mean they also have to look after the health needs of most of Eastern Europe too.

[DodgyAgent]

I dunno Sas, I mean they also have to look after the health needs of most of Eastern Europe too.

[psychocandy]

Maybe if all the nurses weren't heading for "Commodore, Consultant, High Flying, nurse, Practitioner - Consultant first class' then maybe some of them might do some nursing.

A hospital is basically a Hotel & SPA administratively, why are they so bad at running something so simple.

Vetran - you have a very strange attitude to nurses. You seem to be saying they should know they're place at the bottom of the chain and not try to better themselves?

Very strange attitude. That's like saying junior doctors should stay as they are, because someone's got to do the donkey work and how dare they try to better themselves to become specialists....

[ZARDOZ]

Maybe if all the nurses weren't heading for "Commodore, Consultant, High Flying, nurse, Practitioner - Consultant first class' then maybe some of them might do some nursing.

My other half is a Nurse. She got up at 5:30 am this morning to start her shift, she will be back about 10pm the lazy fecker. During this time she will have to deal with some violent patients, and some abusive families whose sense of entitlement is endless. She will get little thanks. She might get a 20 minute break if she's lucky. All that for about £15 an hour, but then she doesn't do it for the money. How you have the front to critisize that is beyond me, I doubt you've ever had to work hard?

[DodgyAgent]

My other half is a Nurse. She got up at 5:30 am this morning to start her shift, she will be back about 10pm the lazy fecker. During this time she will have to deal with some violent patients, and some abusive families whose sense of entitlement is endless. She will get little thanks. She might get a 20 minute break if she's lucky. All that for about £15 an hour, but then she doesn't do it for the money. How you have the front to critisize that is beyond me, I doubt you've ever had to work hard?

So just because your "other half" is so dedicated and works hard then that makes everything OK does it? We should accept the failings of the NHS and just put up with the service they give just because some of the workers are dedicated to their jobs?

I am sorry but you are completely missing the point. A service is as good as its worst employee not its best.

[psychocandy]

So just because your "other half" is so dedicated and works hard then that makes everything OK does it? We should accept the failings of the NHS and just put up with the service they give just because some of the workers are dedicated to their jobs?

I am sorry but you are completely missing the point. A service is as good as its worst employee not its best.

Bloody hell - I agree with DA again!

I must be ill or something....