Healthcare - NHS/Private

[d000hg]

I can compare NHS directly with private - ACL repair on both knees.

Gigantic scar on the NHS where they went straight through the front of the knee, full mobility not returned.
Private was a couple of keyhole scars and a perfect repair.

I think, generally the standard of medicine in the NHS is poorer. Can't say I've noticed a massive difference in the standard of care.

That's exactly the kind of thing you SHOULD see a difference IMO.

[d000hg]

The point still stands.
Why should people have to go through hoops to see a GP?
Luckily I'm reasonably healthy so far, so if for the 1 or 2 occasions I need to see a GP a year, I pay about £150 in exchange for my total convenience, that seems a small price to pay to me.

Hmm, I just phone up and get an appointment usually the same day, otherwise next day... if it were urgent then same-day for sure. When I went to my dentist they asked me if I were free the next morning to have a filling done.

But of course my experience is as statistically valid as yours or DA's

[SAPABAPLeeds]

You have to laugh when people talk about going private, like it's something completely different.
Who trained your private doctor? The NHS (Wrong. Not in all cases)
Who trained your private surgeon? The NHS (Wrong. Not in all cases)
Who trained your private Nurse? The NHS (Wrong. Not in all cases)

Whose facilities is he using? Quite often.. The NHS (Wrong. Not in all cases. have you ever heard of Spire/Nuffield hospitals)

Who many private A&E departments are there?

That's called sad state of affairs. Do you know why Private hospitals are not allowed to have A&E?

Private healthcare relies on The NHS. And the point is?

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[sasguru]

Hmm, I just phone up and get an appointment usually the same day, otherwise next day... if it were urgent then same-day for sure. When I went to my dentist they asked me if I were free the next morning to have a filling done.

But of course my experience is as statistically valid as yours or DA's

I live close to one of the greatest metropolises in the world, you live in the arse end of nowhere.
That probably explains it.

[d000hg]

I live close to one of the greatest metropolises in the world, you live in the arse end of nowhere.
That probably explains it.

It doesn't sound very great to me if you can't even get a doctor's appointment.

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[psychocandy]

You have to laugh when people talk about going private, like it's something completely different.
Who trained your private doctor? The NHS
Who trained your private surgeon? The NHS
Who trained your private Nurse? The NHS
Whose facilities is he using? Quite often.. The NHS

Who many private A&E departments are there?

Private healthcare relies on The NHS.

Yes, true but its the attitude thats the problem in the NHS. Im sure there are some very good people in the NHS but the attitude is - dont complain its free we'll do what we like.

Prime example of piss poor behaviour today:-

Wife has bad asthma (and is pregnant) been to GP about 4 times and GP referred her to hospital as urgent case. That was 3 weeks ago.

Since then shes phoned hospital and today spoke to consultants secretary (wife works in same hospital so knows how do things). Apparently, consultant decided not to see but to recommend course of treatment to GP so faxed them 2 1/2 weeks. Heard nothing from GP so wife has been struggling for 2 1/2 weeks unnecessarily (Almost to the point of having to go to A&E at one point).

Lets just say shes not impressed but all we had from GP was excuses. This is verges on negligence IMHO. But then in 2013, why on earth is important communication done via fax and not followed up?

[Platypus]

Sheesh - asthma is life threatening

[lilelvis2000]

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So Formant is your sockie?

When I said break it up I did not mean privatise it. Privatise the bits that are suitable for privatisation, cut back the complex lines of responsibility and divvy it up into regional providers. small states such as Hungary,Denmark Belgium and Croatia seem to manage why on earth does the NHS need to be as big as it is?

I wouldn't touch Fomant with a 10' pole.

Most of what you state is already in place. There are private wings. Only thing left is the size of the management. and getting a better deal on drugs. The NHS is massively ripped on on drugs. 'course I think patients should pay the full cost of drugs, not the NHS.

[d000hg]

Model it on airports...

Simply being able to pay to skip the queue in A&E would be very valuable. Or a private waiting room away from the drunken bleeding chavs.

[MyUserName]

Lets just say shes not impressed but all we had from GP was excuses. This is verges on negligence IMHO. But then in 2013, why on earth is important communication done via fax and not followed up?

When my wife got pregnant we went to the doctor to discuss a genetic problem that her family has which can be fatal (killed her sister when she was a few days old), the doctor refered us to a paediatrician whom we explained things to again.

They had told us that if they do not get back to use that means everything is okay. No one got back to us. A few days before the due date I mention in passing about this and the doctor gets confused so she phones around.

It turns out someone went to get records from a microfiche machine just after we saw the paediatrician but it was broken so they could not get the records. They forgot about it and the paediatrician did not chase them about it.

It turns out that the condition is lethal for my daughter and we should have been having genetic counselling every two weeks the entire time. Now it is too late to do anything, if she has it then she is dead - end of.

As luck would have it there is nothing wrong with her but I was simply amazed that this massive balls up could happen and no one seemed to care apart from our GP.