Europe

[formant]

trash the person and thus have a nice easy cop out to avoid facing the point is it not? It does not matter what Nigel Farage says the point is that the Conservative MP was not able to deny his claims that Romanian and Bulgarian migrants will be able to claim benefits from day one.

And that one Conservative MP is all-knowing? No, he's just poorly informed less articulate than Farage.

It's not my fault idiots like Farage undermine their own credibility on a daily basis.

[sasguru]

Ah, that good old anti-German bias once again. .

What anti-German bias?
Is it not a matter of fact that German-decided policies are responsible for contracting the economies of Greece, Spain, Portugal and Italy, year by year. People with other ideas on how to cope with the crisis are not being listened to. The leaders of Italy and Spain are non-elected technocrats imposed, in the main, by German central bankers.

These are facts not supposition.
It's not hard to see why.
Germany has benefited enormously from the single currency and wants to keep it that way.

[formant]

Just how old are you? 18 years in Berlin 8 years here ....

Couple of years in the US in between. Not yet 30.

[The Spartan]

From that article: "UK: Bulgarians and Romanians who come to Britain from January 1, 2014, will be eligible for most benefits if they have work, are self-employed or seeking a job, have an address and intend to stay.
They would be means tested, but could get: Jobseeker’s allowance, housing benefit, working tax credits, incapacity benefit, disability living allowance, income support and child benefit."

Hah, it's like the Wail completely neglected the fact that in order to claim anything you need a national insurance number. To get a national insurance number you have to have a (legitimate) job (with a contract). That whole process takes a minimum of 6 weeks (It took more like 8 when I applied for my NI number in 2005). Payments won't predate the date of first making the claim, so unless people are suggesting that Romanians will come here, secure a work-contract and ditch that job to go on benefits the moment their NI number arrives in the post, this 'from day one' thing is just complete bollocks. And even then, it's obviously not 'from day one'.

If people are noticing then it is having the intended effect

[formant]

Germany has benefited enormously from the single currency and wants to keep it that way.

You'd be surprised how many Germans would vehemently deny that.

(not me obviously)

[sasguru]

You'd be surprised how many Germans would vehemently deny that.

(not me obviously)

One only needs to look at German economic figures pre and post Euro.

[formant]

One only needs to look at German economic figures pre and post Euro.

I think the locals are more concerned with the immense rise in living costs. They're no less blind to the bigger picture than most UK citizens are.

[sasguru]

I think the locals are more concerned with the immense rise in living costs. They're no less blind to the bigger picture than most UK citizens are.

So you agree with my thesis that Germany is dominating Europe via economic means?

[formant]

So you agree with my thesis that Germany is dominating Europe via economic means?

I don't think anyone can deny that they have the largest and strongest economy in Europe. That's not a recent phenomenon. It's the paranoia about the German-run totalitarian superstate that I can only laugh at.

[DodgyAgent]

And that one Conservative MP is all-knowing? No, he's just poorly informed less articulate than Farage.

It's not my fault idiots like Farage undermine their own credibility on a daily basis.

Another example. If you cannot win the point smear the person. I do not know which MP she was but she has been an MP going back to the previous Tory government where in her words she was responsible for the VISA scheme. So she would probably know a lot better than you would.