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McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
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it was dragged out for 10 years, he should have been done for breaking and entering and not stealing anything which is what he did with their computer data.Comment
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Good. Regardless of whether this particular bloke should have been extradited, this treaty should be largely ignored until it is revised to be completely equitable. Some say it is equitable like this bloke:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...n-treaty-us-uk
but if that is so, why is there is an extra clause in the treaty protecting US citizens that does not apply to UK citizens? Surely an equitable treaty would impose the same conditions on both sides? Others say it is equitable in practice because the US authorities do actually supply equivalent information but depending on the good will of the complainants is hardly legal justice.Last edited by xoggoth; 14 December 2012, 17:42.bloggoth
If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)Comment
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BTW, anyone know, what the figures should be if the treaty was equitable, assuming the US has a population 5 time ours? According to these "FAQs" :
FAQs on the US-UK Extradition Relationship | Embassy of the United States
That looks to me like total bollux. They have 5 times as many potential offenders but they also have 1/5 of the individuals/companies that they could offend against and who would lodge a complaint. 5 x 1/5 = 1 By my reckoning an equitable treaty would see about the same number extradited from each. I could be wrong, any statisticians with a different view?•The Baker panel report notes that the U.S. has a population about five times the size of the UK, but there have been fewer than twice the number of people extradited to the U.S. than to the UK. The number of U.S. requests is therefore not disproportionateLast edited by xoggoth; 14 December 2012, 17:59.bloggoth
If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)Comment
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The conspirators will wonder why his extradition was blocked the day after another chap with the identical condition (and with a identical medical diagnosis) was removed.
This does being questions into how strong the law is in the area of hacking. Or did the CPS just look the other way? Maybe some truths about the Police cock-ups would come out.McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."Comment
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The treaty huff was a complete (although very successful) smokescreen. He would have been extradicted even if the clauses had been 100% fully equitable. They had more than enough evidence to extradicte him, even under the old treaty.Originally posted by xoggoth View PostComment
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Makes me wonder....if they don't want to prosecute him and the home secretary won't allow him to be removed...then the guy is free to hack into US computers! So would it not be prudent to bar him from using a computer with access to the internet?McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."Comment
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