Moving from the front line.

[Gibbon]

All the projects I have worked on have had a project manager already assigned, there was never any opportunity to manage unless I started some Machiavellian plan to get them fired simultaneously acquiring the role all within a 3-12 month contract.

NEXT.

Excuses. Over the the years your bosses must have taken holiday, been sick, been seconded etc etc. That's how I got in, made myself useful. In fact I've been to lots of places where subbies have leadership positions, but from the look of your replies you're a 'giver upper' and it probably has been noticeable, hence never been asked. Bit like going to a disco and waiting for a girl to pull you.

[LatteLiberal]

Excuses. Over the the years your bosses must have taken holiday, been sick, been seconded etc etc. That's how I got in, made myself useful. In fact I've been to lots of places where subbies have leadership positions, but from the look of your replies you're a 'giver upper' and it probably has been noticeable, hence never been asked. Bit like going to a disco and waiting for a girl to pull you.

As I previously said, I had never been interested in management until now. anyway seems like it requires one to be a brown noser with little integrity, I assume you made it no problem.

[Gibbon]

As I previously said, I had never been interested in management until now. anyway seems like it requires one to be a brown noser with little integrity, I assume you made it no problem.

Don't need to brown nose, just competent. stultissimus.

[sasguru]

As I previously said, I had never been interested in management until now. anyway seems like it requires one to be a brown noser with little integrity, I assume you made it no problem.

Oi Russell, you'll never make it. It's because you're a cretin. Geddit?

[LatteLiberal]

Oi Russell, you'll never make it. It's because you're a cretin. Geddit?

Thought I was supposed to be Gentile? Now it's Russell, seems like you are unsure of your own mind and can't make a decision. You WILL make it as a manager.

[al_cam]

While everyone thinks they could manage a project, in fact, most of them can't.

I naturally moved into it from being technical (an engineer). I find that I just naturally take the lead everywhere, not just at work. If you are like that too then maybe there is a possibility but I don't really believe you can learn to be a leader.

More importantly though, I wouldn't recommend it. I would love to go back to being a techie. As PM, you are on the front line more than anyone else. It is miles harder than being a techie and at the moment, rates are piss poor and only getting worse. I could earn more being a programmer with no stress or hassles. I'm currently working on plan B as I think the arse is out of PM'ing and it isn't coming back any time soon.

Best of luck whatever you do.

[d000hg]

You're too stupid to be a manager.

Since when has stupidity precluded working in management?

[doodab]

You're too stupid to be a manager

That isn't actually possible.