Religious nutcase doctors refuse abortion to miscarrying woman who then dies

[EternalOptimist]

If it was my daughter, and I had the skills, and the law forbade it, I would do the necessary.

If it was someone elses daughter and the full force of the law contadicted my hippocratic oath and my own carefully arrived at opinion ....
jeez. what a predicament

[NotAllThere]

Religion is evil, there's one form of proof.

Erm. No. It would be "proof". Not a "form" of proof. There are religions which allow abortion under these circumstances, so your statement is entirely testicular, and more testament to your knee jerk,irrational reaction to anything to do with religion. I do wonder why you're so sensitive about it.

It is claimed that if she'd had an abortion, then she would not have died. However, is that actually known at this time? Perhaps it was other medical mismanagement that was the real cause. Maybe we'll get to know after the investigation - unless there's the usual hospital cover ups.

According to this "There were 7 deaths after legal abortions during 1982-84 and 4 during 1985-87". However, I don't recall an outcry then demanding that abortion be outlawed to save women's lives.

The prolifers I know wouldn't have an issue with a woman having an abortion if it's either that or both die. I surprised that Irish law doesn't cover this (if it was really the case).

[Spacecadet]

I surprised that Irish law doesn't cover this (if it was really the case).

AFAIK Irish law does allow it.

[d000hg]

Is it only the religious that have such strong anti-abortion views? I don't know why but I thought even the secular world frowned on it... judging by the number of people who get knocked up by accident but then choose to have the baby

[original PM]

so lets see if the woman was miscarrying does this not therefore mean the foetus was already non viable?

If so then it was not abortion but the removal of an a collection of cells that never made consciousness.

which means the doctors are at fault as they would not have been perfomring an abortion.

However the fu<ked up law in a backwards country which allows people to die because of lies peddled for the past 2000 years needs to be addressed.

[cailin maith]

However the fu<ked up law in a backwards country which allows people to die because of lies peddled for the past 2000 years needs to be addressed.

Easier said than done.

From what I've heard, the foetus had a heartbeat for a long time and that was what caused the delays.

It's not right but unfortunatly its the law and my heart breaks for that poor woman.

[Gibbon]

Strange how things deeply embedded in the distant past still have effect.

One, and I mean one of many, reasons Christianity gained a foot hold in the Roman world was it's prohibition of abortion and the exposing of unwanted infants. This was popular among women who could be ordered by their husbands or fathers to dispose of unwanted children as described. The Church would help them to refuse these actions and so gained support among women who were the stalwarts of the early church.

And now we rail against what was meant to be a more humane action. Yes of cause there is context etc and the literal interpretation, but look at the rest of the world where infanticide is a common occurrence and without the Church's teaching on this matter where would we be?

[sasguru]

Feck me I started reading that article and thought t was going to be about how backward India is, which wouldn't have been a surprise.
Gobsmacked that it happened in Ireland.
Religious brainwashing is indeed a stupid, evil thing.

[OwlHoot]

WNFS

+1

Suity must have got out of bed on the wrong side this morning, or else he's not thinking straight

[d000hg]

Ironically, she was only having a baby because her own religion had led to an arranged marriage.