You''ll live where we put you

[The Spartan]

very sorry to hear that.

Thanks mate it's something we've had to learn to live with unfortunately.

[DodgyAgent]

There are legal remedies to deal with people who behave in the ways you've described. This article isn't about such people. It's about people who can't afford rent. Whilst there may be some overlap, you do need to differentiate between the two when you're discussing fair housing policies.

Living in your quiet cul - de sac in Cheam I guess you get to it all

[DodgyAgent]

The whole topic isn't as black and white as benefit cheats and the genuinelly unable, be it through lack of opportunity or disability.
"Them" seems to imply that you think all people in council houses are somehow frauds, it's a bit insulting and very far from the mark.

Here you go:

Council house boot for tenants earning more than £60,000 | The Sun |News|Politics

[vetran]

Here you go:

Council house boot for tenants earning more than £60,000 | The Sun |News|Politics

Up to 40,000 homes could be freed up, saving £122million a year.

I always suspected that this was a significant number but that is shocking.

[xoggoth]

"Them" seems to imply that you think all people in council houses are somehow frauds, it's a bit insulting and very far from the mark.

I don't think their motives are relevant. It is rightly seen as unjust when people are asked to subsidise others for things, like living in pricey areas or having more kids, that they cannot afford for themselves and that is very destructive of incentive.

Personally, I think we need to restore a great deal more Darwin into our society. At the moment, the least able are being funded to breed at a higher rate than the more able who fund them. If we carry on like that, we in the West will disappear back into the primordial soup. Child allowances and benefits need to be cut. If you depend on the state you should do whatever is reasonably required to remove the burden on others.

[doodab]

Is it healthy to have entire areas (the whole of the south east?) where there are no poor people?

Surely it's the goal of civilisation to turn the entire world into an area where there are no poor people?

[EternalOptimist]

I don't think their motives are relevant. It is rightly seen as unjust when people are asked to subsidise others for things, like living in pricey areas or having more kids, that they cannot afford for themselves and that is very destructive of incentive.

I disagree with that. There are a few categories of doleite/housing recipient in my opinion.
The one who are there due to circs or misfortune and who are fighting like heck to get back to work etc.
The ones who are there temporalily while they get educated, etc, with the aim of getting into work
The ones who have perfect motives, but will never be a tap dancer because they only have one leg
The ones who are playing the system and milking it

The first three we all love, and give them every assistance. It's the last bunch who we all hate and want to feed to the pigs. fckng drones (and believe me, poor people who stuggle, hate them more than we do)

[vetran]

I disagree with that. There are a few categories of doleite/housing recipient in my opinion.
The one who are there due to circs or misfortune and who are fighting like heck to get back to work etc.
The ones who are there temporalily while they get educated, etc, with the aim of getting into work
The ones who have perfect motives, but will never be a tap dancer because they only have one leg
The ones who are playing the system and milking it

The first three we all love, and give them every assistance. It's the last bunch who we all hate and want to feed to the pigs. fckng drones (and believe me, poor people who stuggle, hate them more than we do)

agree so when it becomes obvious when people fall into the last slot and are getting more than £400 / week then lets move them to Gravesend.

[The Spartan]

Will a living wage provide them with the incentive to get off their backsides? possibly not the thing that gets me is that a certain section of society believe that certain types of jobs are beneath them.

[vetran]

Will a living wage provide them with the incentive to get off their backsides? possibly not the thing that gets me is that a certain section of society believe that certain types of jobs are beneath them.

my comment was actually about low wage employees that have their accommodation and living expenses subsidised via benefits when the large employers pay no tax in the UK, so in effect the country is subsidising Starbucks and saving their employees from starving.