Pay your fair share of tax - everyone

[Robinho]

You've not really explained any biological or religious reason why you're better is what I mean. Is this your conscience talking?

He contributes more to society.

[escapeUK]

You've not really explained any biological or religious reason why you're better is what I mean. Is this your conscience talking?

Oh you're the religious nutter arent you, sorry I wont waste my breath ahem typing replying to anything else you say. Bye.

[Old Hack]

I meant real guns, hand guns, machine guns, assault riffles. Like they have in America.

I am sure one could get hold of them were you to hold a different license for a certain amount of time.

Join a gun club, that's a way to get small arms.

If you want to, there's always a way.

[d000hg]

Way to bail out while you're not too far behind.

What a narrow little world you live in. Anyone of faith is a religious nutter, anyone who doesn't do exactly what you would with their life is a petty waste of space, etc.

[The Spartan]

I meant real guns, hand guns, machine guns, assault riffles. Like they have in America.

America is a really mixed bag it's really hard to get a licence in some states, I found this out on my trip there earlier in the year

[IR35FanClub]

Is it just me or has this has got chuff all to do with tax fairness and more to do with appeasing a baying public and media angry that the guy up the street is paying a lower % of tax than them?

Yes, there was media coverage about Vodafone but the average guy on the street can't really understand that, but they can understand their neighbour's brand new BMW.

Thats exactly the problem. Trouble is they are looking at percentages and not £'s. I paid [past tense] enough tax to fund several public sector workers. On a value for money score - do I get more street lighting, medical treatments and police protection than someone who pays one a grand or two in tax? Nope. So they can all kiss my. Does someone who earns £1m need to pay several hundred thousand in taxes? I think the most anyone should pay is £10,000 a year. And people should pay for the services they use. This would see the government reduced to a law making and enforcement division, which is what they used to do. At the moment they do pretty much everything. From child delivery, childcare, schooling, healthcare, etc. You can't get away from the government providing services which you probably didnt want. Arts classes for naughty teenagers. Free public events - which aren't free, they costs hundreds of thousands. Obesity counselling. Fertility treatment to those with no income. The NHS and social security budget could be slashed by 9 10ths if they took a hard line. The way our tax system currently works its a bit like going into a restaurant and ordering a burger, and finding that because you earn more than the bloke who's just ordered a 32 oz sirloin but is unemployed, he gets his for free, and your burger costs £200!

I used past tense as that was until I decided to withdraw my labour from supplying to the government. I'm not sure yet whether I'll carry on contracting as if the gov are taking this attitude, it won't be long till they start saying all companies have to take this approach. Right now I'm redecorating my house, getting up to date with all those little financial jobs that have been left for months and then I'll look into starting a proper business, which is just the same as contracting, but I won't get accused of avoiding tax if I am shipping stock, not just sitting at a desk. Basically its such an ***e ******g ******g ******cks joke, I'm sitting on the bench till I know whats what. Enjoying getting up at 8:30, and getting the paint brushes out.

If I keep enjoying it this much, I'll wait till my savings hit £8k and then wind up the company and sign on. I've paid enough tax over the years to take a break. Do they still pay your mortgage interest? If all the unskilled good for nothing lazy lay abouts have been getting away with this for years, I thought I may as well join them for a bit.

[IR35FanClub]

1. It is in the insurance companys' interest to keep costs down for their customers. So if it is cheaper to operate earlier or take preventative care it will be done.

2. If you are a more productive person, you can afford more expensive healthcare and thus you can get treatment earlier, and you can get back and be productive earlier. Thus the productivity loss is smaller in total than averaging the treatment time for 2 people.

Much like it makes more sense for a contractor on 50 quid an hour to spend 5 pounds on a taxi which takes 5 mins to get to work, but a receptionist earning 5 pounds an hour would be better spending 2 pounds on a bus which takes 15 minutes.

This is very true. I've had several times where I've paid to go to a walk in private doctors instead of waiting for an NHS appointment. Usually something like a knackered back or legs which is almost preventing me from working. What I think is pants, is that the NHS don't give me anything towards it - despite the fact it meant I never showed up on their waiting lists. I don't know what a NHS GP gets if I turn up at their surgery but I bets its £50 or more. And a private appointment comes in somewhere around £100. I recall the tories were thinking about offering something like this. But maybe it got binned due to creating a "two tier" healthcare system. Well excuse me, what's wrong with that? You can have the free NHS and wait, or get the money you would have got in the NHS and add your own and get quicker service. Seems fair. Just like you can go to McDonalds or Jamie's or Raymond Blancs. One size shouldn't fit all. And this is why the government should not have a monopoly on provision of services. Whether that's healthcare, schooling, or even policing.

[The Spartan]

I think the title of the thread says it all really: Pay your fair share of tax - everyone

The fact is some people pay no tax whatsoever, if everyone paid tax then the burden would less on everyone one would hope but the fact is the system is so cushy that there are those that can't be arsed to get off their arses and work and the hardworking are expected to plug the gap.

[Scoobos]

This debate dies on its arse for me, when you find out just how many tens of BILLIONS are waived by HMRC to the multinationals.

I know people have mentioned vodafone on here, but they are a bit unfairly targetted, since its widespread among many many companies.

They'd never demonise the hand that feeds them though, so why not attack us instead . This whole argument that if the government tries to enforce taxation on multinationals, they'll move overseas is a bit daft IMO. We are underselling ourselves for the sake of dividend returns, to say that there's no prestige of value to doing business in the UK (especially london) is poppycock. IMO.

If they do business here, they should get taxed on the profits they make in the UK.

I read somewhere that the total written off in 2010 equated to 500 quid per head or something stupid like that.

[Scoobos]

I think the title of the thread says it all really: Pay your fair share of tax - everyone

The fact is some people pay no tax whatsoever, if everyone paid tax then the burden would less on everyone one would hope but the fact is the system is so cushy that there are those that can't be arsed to get off their arses and work and the hardworking are expected to plug the gap.

Whilst I hate people who abuse the system, I'm quite convinced there's more people WANTING to work without a labour market to go into.

Perhaps in the south this is lost though.