Why agent ask about rates

[Old Hack]

If you read your 4yo a story about Harry Potter or Jack and the Beanstalk they'll think it's real.

But as it happens I don't have kids and if I did I probably wouldn't tell them about Santa except as another bedtime story. I think you're only playing devil's advocate though because you come across as a fairly honest person who knows the difference between lying and makebelieve.

Who has also suggested he is less than honest with his dealings with agents....

So whilst I am sure EO has a great understanding of lying and telling tales, he also lies, like most. In negotiations, that is what normal people do.

So you'd sell Santa claus as fiction, to a kid. I am now very happy you're not going to be adding to the gene pool, as are the children you're not going to have.

Took my eldest to Lapland a couple of years back. Can still remember the unadulterated joy on her face for the week we were there. Taking the middle child there this year.

[d000hg]

Never once been intimidated by anyone

Of course not. You were the cool kid at school with loads of girlfriends, great at sport AND won all the academic prizes, blah blah blah.

If you see negotiation as simply saying this is the price and standing your ground, then you are obviously tremendously bad at it and very naive.

Hmm. There's this program on TV where people worth hundreds of £millions negotiate to buy shares in small companies. They don't lie or haggle, they just name a figure and let the other person choose.

When you haggle in an Eastern market you don't need to make up stories, you just haggle. Do you really think the salesman can't see though your amateur dramatics, he's a professional and pretends to buy your story to give you the price you could have got anyway. You're like one of those fools on The Apprentice in the negotiation task.

The best negotiators I've seen are blunt and honest. They don't spin stories, they just make it clear what they will pay and make it clear they're not messing about.

[EternalOptimist]

If you read your 4yo a story about Harry Potter or Jack and the Beanstalk they'll think it's real.

But as it happens I don't have kids and if I did I probably wouldn't tell them about Santa except as another bedtime story. I think you're only playing devil's advocate though because you come across as a fairly honest person who knows the difference between lying and makebelieve.

I am bored, tis true, but the point I was making is a genuine one. People lie, often for a very good reason
I lied to my kids

when my 5 yr old daughters hamster died of hypothermia one easter, I bought her a new one

when she asked me why it looked different, I told her that he had gone up to heaven to see baby jesus and to tell him that he was cold, so baby jesus gave him a brand new coat to wear.

It made her happy. It made me happy.

[Old Hack]

Of course not. You were the cool kid at school with loads of girlfriends, great at sport AND won all the academic prizes, blah blah blah.

Hmm. There's this program on TV where people worth hundreds of £millions negotiate to buy shares in small companies. They don't lie or haggle, they just name a figure and let the other person choose.

When you haggle in an Eastern market you don't need to make up stories, you just haggle. Do you really think the salesman can't see though your amateur dramatics, he's a professional and pretends to buy your story to give you the price you could have got anyway. You're like one of those fools on The Apprentice in the negotiation task.

The best negotiators I've seen are blunt and honest. They don't spin stories, they just make it clear what they will pay and make it clear they're not messing about.

Oh dear, you really are a childish person aren't you.

Buying a car and purchasing a necklace for your boyfriend in a Moroccan bazaar are entirely different things.

I was great at cricket and rugby, but rubbish at everything else. Had girlfriends, like normal hetrosexual teenagers. Was extremely good at Maths and Physics, but lazy at the other stuff.

Now, when it comes to sales, and of course purchasing, it depends who holds the aces. If you can get yourself into the best position, by means foul or fair, you do.

As I said, I have saved projects lots of money, by deceit, by playing people against each other. I do this with agents, as do others.

It seems that you are in the minority.

Of course, there are times you simply put a figure up and don't budge, but others where you lie. Failing to see this, illuminates your childishness, nothing else.