Has dodgy bought his yet?

[Mich the Tester]

Doesn't matter where she's from ; she clearly only cared for the capital.

I was studying economics at the time that she resigned , and I remember our teacher saying how good a time to be an observing economist it was.

Thatcherism stands for short term profit for a select number at the cost of long term employment stability.
I believe that Dave and Co have the same agenda now, I'm not sure it works - I reckon society is worse now than it was in the 80's.

The papers released show how her economic advisors thought. (e.g the way that northern cities were left to rot, as they would leech resources that would better be utilised encouraging economic growth in London).

For better or worse, she'd be the first to ban this shirt, then moan about government intervention in markets.

As per you, DA, she also believes that its acceptable to let regions fail , as they aren't competitive enough.

I bet if you grew up in my region, you'd hold the same views as me, but you don't and I guess you are young; so that's fine too.

A positive about her, was that some of the Unions were an embarrassment and at least she tried to deal with them, but moderation certainly wasn't her watchword and unfortunately we lost a lot of long term employment, which we've had to pay for by law enforcement, escalating healthcare costs etc.

You have to see her in the context of her time. As you said, someone had to deal with the unions and break the stranglehold of vested interests that was holding back enterprise. She did that in a way which she thought at the time was right, and to be fair, in hindsight she went too far at times, and the short termism that came from the economic culture of the 80s is indeed a real problem nowadays. I think that solving today's problems will need a different approach, but whoever does that will probably end up leaving a legacy that's just as divisive.

I'm not purely positive or negative about Mrs Thatcher, but I find the t-shirts pathetic. I think she did her best and I think that in the dishonesty stakes she's been overtaken, lapped and thrashed by Tony B Liar.

[BA to the Stars]

Possible Plan B could be to sell Bob Crow / Arthur Scargill / is a t-shirt at the Conservative party conference.

Whats good for the goose

[d000hg]

Aiden Burley, Conservative MP for Cannock Chase, told the newspaper: "This sick merchandise tells you all you need to know about some in the union movement - baseless, cowardly and utterly devoid of morality.

WHS.

I don't give a damn if she rescued or ruined the economy, gloating at someone's death...

[BrilloPad]

WHS.

I don't give a damn if she rescued or ruined the economy, gloating at someone's death...

I think quite a few gloated at Hitler's death.

IMO we need another Thatcher now. But we had to go through Heath to get to THatcher. "Call me Dave" is definitely a Heath. Actually he is less than a Heath as he has no musical talent and cannot sail.

[TestMangler]

You have to see her in the context of her time. As you said, someone had to deal with the unions and break the stranglehold of vested interests that was holding back enterprise. She did that in a way which she thought at the time was right, and to be fair, in hindsight she went too far at times, and the short termism that came from the economic culture of the 80s is indeed a real problem nowadays. I think that solving today's problems will need a different approach, but whoever does that will probably end up leaving a legacy that's just as divisive.

I'm not purely positive or negative about Mrs Thatcher, but I find the t-shirts pathetic. I think she did her best and I think that in the dishonesty stakes she's been overtaken, lapped and thrashed by Tony B Liar.

This is the part that a lot of people seem to forget. British Leyland, for example, would go out on strike for anything they could think of, demanding 16% pay rises to produce the worst pile of tulip available in the market place. The labour government of the day regularly just gave in to them. We had firemen, binmen, electricity generation, coal etc striking at the drop of a hat and the country was a tulip hole to live in. Life wasn't all bloody flat screen tvs, detatched houses with integral garage and two cars per house back then. The country was a mess being held to ransom by unions.

[BrilloPad]

Not quite enough arguing on this thread. Did someone say Falklands?

<tin hat on>

[Lockhouse]

It's the left wing envy, hate and general nastiness I can't stand. When you are dealing with Socialists, all reason goes out of the window.

It's the same old story; A guy drives past in an expensive car. The American worker thinks "One day that's gonna be me". The British worker thinks "I'm gonna have you you b*****d".

[BA to the Stars]

This is the part that a lot of people seem to forget. British Leyland, for example, would go out on strike for anything they could think of, demanding 16% pay rises to produce the worst pile of tulip available in the market place. The labour government of the day regularly just gave in to them. We had firemen, binmen, electricity generation, coal etc striking at the drop of a hat and the country was a tulip hole to live in. Life wasn't all bloody flat screen tvs, detatched houses with integral garage and two cars per house back then. The country was a mess being held to ransom by unions.

+1

[DodgyAgent]

Doesn't matter where she's from ; she clearly only cared for the capital.

I was studying economics at the time that she resigned , and I remember our teacher saying how good a time to be an observing economist it was.

Thatcherism stands for short term profit for a select number at the cost of long term employment stability.
I believe that Dave and Co have the same agenda now, I'm not sure it works - I reckon society is worse now than it was in the 80's.

The papers released show how her economic advisors thought. (e.g the way that northern cities were left to rot, as they would leech resources that would better be utilised encouraging economic growth in London).

For better or worse, she'd be the first to ban this shirt, then moan about government intervention in markets.

As per you, DA, she also believes that its acceptable to let regions fail , as they aren't competitive enough.

I bet if you grew up in my region, you'd hold the same views as me, but you don't and I guess you are young; so that's fine too.

A positive about her, was that some of the Unions were an embarrassment and at least she tried to deal with them, but moderation certainly wasn't her watchword and unfortunately we lost a lot of long term employment, which we've had to pay for by law enforcement, escalating healthcare costs etc.

I grew up outside Doncaster and Nottingham and I saw a bunch of bullies that blackmailed the rest of the country into supporting uncompetitive industries from print to mining. I used to see unrestrained pickets grinding the entire economy to a halt and I then saw the IMF come in and impose austerity measures the likes of which destroyed the lives of many thousands of people.
I saw trade union leaders filling their pockets with membership subscriptions and inciting violence.

I then saw the wholesale unravelling of British nationalised industries and the freeing of the banking sector and I then saw hundreds of thousands of very fortunate geeks exploit the release of industry from Union control by selling their skills to bring technology to industries that had Thatcher not emerged will have still been stuck in the dark ages.

I now see little hypocrites like you spinning her policies from what was at the time a necessity into cowardly and dishonest cliches.

[BrilloPad]

It's the same old story; A guy drives past in an expensive Rover car. The American worker thinks "One day that's gonna be me". The British car worker thinks "I've had you you b*****d".

FTFY