More Bannings

[Platypus]

Platypus and Owlhoot in particular have been acting like dogs in heat around her which does surprise me as I don't think she's attractive. However, everyone has their own tastes.

So, you suspect some underlying sexual motive for me not joining in the feeding frenzy of targeted nastiness.

Interesting.

[Incognito]

Hating working for someone might not imply you hate them, but it does imply you think they are different from other groups in some way, which makes them bad to work for.

You can label it how you want, but I am not the same as a Spaniard, an Egyptian, an Arab, A Jew, whatever. The reason for that is I have been brought up in a British, Protestant culture and if you really don't think that shapes my outlook and the way I look at the world then you're blinkered. People are shaped by their experiences and your experiences are typically influenced by your peers. That is not racist, because if you picked up an african kid and dropped him into my shoes then he the chances are he would have the same influences shaping him through life. Your colour does not dictate who you are, but your culture does.

[Platypus]

Utter bollocks.

B because A

cock

Well I thought I made a good point. And I said call me a pedant, not call me a cock

[Old Hack]

Well I thought I made a good point. And I said call me a pedant, not call me a cock

You are implying they're exclusive and they aren't; you don't like working for a certain group as they are not good to work for 'in your experience'. None of that is racist, yet to suit your argument, you are implying it is.

[fullyautomatix]

This, I believe, was the post that started the accusation

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1273951

Interesting ! Spod used the word 'Gentile' there and sometime later a 'Gentile' pops up and causes havoc !

[doodab]

I think you could be a racist even if you didn't dislike any particular group, because a racist worldview would be one in which you don't work from the axiom that all people are equal.

Ok. So am I a racist if I hold a belief that there are differences between races? Some genetic, some cultural, some insignificant and some actually quite important, like increased prevalance of sickle cell in certain groups of black people for example.

My point is really that we need to be careful how we use a term with such negative connotations. People are fundamentally similar but denying there are differences between people requires glossing over an awful lot of contradictory evidence. People who acknowledge the differences aren't automatically racist in the sense it's normally bandied about, and although many racists will seize on evidence of difference to support their agendas that isn't in itself grounds to throw it out.

[Incognito]

So, you suspect some underlying sexual motive for me not joining in the feeding frenzy of targeted nastiness.

Interesting.

Yup, more or less nailed that one on the head. I wouldn't call it a feeding frenzy really, I personally think she's an arse, I don't really lose sleep about what other people think about her.

[Incognito]

Ok. So am I a racist if I hold a belief that there are differences between races? Some genetic, some cultural, some insignificant and some actually quite important, like increased prevalance of sickle cell in certain groups of black people for example.

My point is really that we need to be careful how we use a term with such negative connotations. People are fundamentally similar but denying there are differences between people requires glossing over an awful lot of contradictory evidence. People who acknowledge the differences aren't automatically racist in the sense it's normally bandied about, and although many racists will seize on evidence of difference to support their agendas that isn't in itself grounds to throw it out.

It was interesting during the Olympics they did a piece on why Black athletes are so dominant at the short distance sprinting and it's to do with the length of their leg in proportion to their torso, long legs short torso whereas Anglo Saxon genetical make up was different and more suited to swimming. I think that was how it was portrayed, I'm going to do some googling and see if I can find the study.

[Platypus]

You are implying they're exclusive and they aren't; you don't like working for a certain group as they are not good to work for 'in your experience'. None of that is racist, yet to suit your argument, you are implying it is.

It's an opinion rather than an argument. One that you clearly disagree with vehemently.

But I still maintain that saying "XXX group is <some unsavoury characteristic>" is a generalisation that is XXXist.

[Old Hack]

It's an opinion rather than an argument. One that you clearly disagree with vehemently.

But I still maintain that saying "XXX group is <bad to work for>" is a generalisation that is XXXist.

Kind of looks different now, no?