Public Sector nonsense

[Gentile]

There are too many loopholes at present to prevent the £220pd / 6 month ban from being effective. Chances are they'll just offer contractors fixed-term, 6 month contracts in the future at an even greater daily rate than at present (to compensate for the reduced duration), and just rotate staff on their never-ending projects.

However, if they ever do manage to make it work, I think they'll find it a bit like when the tobacco industry was banned from mainstream advertising. i.e., they'll belatedly realise it was money they were only wasting all along.

Software development / IT projects of any complexity generally take 6-9 months max to complete, if you're working competently. A year at most for the very most complex, 2-4 months for very simple implementations that closely-resemble previous solutions. The only reason that projects of equivalent complexity take so much longer in the Public Sector than they do in profit-making businesses is because it's lucrative for suppliers and career-enhancing for bureaucratic internal management for it to be that way.

[louie]

KUATB will you.

But this thread is about my contract, it's like saying there should only be one IR35 thread.

[The Spartan]

It's the public sector way firstly they don't have a clue how to run projects and then secondly they don't know what they want so they're always over budget. When I was a permie at Companies House they spent 40 million implementing a replacement processing system and it was 2 years overdue

[louie]

There are too many loopholes at present to prevent the £220pd / 6 month ban from being effective. Chances are they'll just offer contractors fixed-term, 6 month contracts in the future at an even greater daily rate than at present (to compensate for the reduced duration), and just rotate staff on their never-ending projects.

However, if they ever do manage to make it work, I think they'll find it a bit like when the tobacco industry was banned from mainstream advertising. i.e., they'll belatedly realise it was money they were only wasting all along.

Software development / IT projects of any complexity generally take 6-9 months max to complete, if you're working competently. A year at most for the very most complex, 2-4 months for very simple implementations that closely-resemble previous solutions. The only reason that projects of equivalent complexity take so much longer in the Public Sector than they do in profit-making businesses is because it's lucrative for suppliers and career-enhancing for bureaucratic internal management for it to be that way.

It's not meant to be effective, it's a Political stunt to show the government are cracking down on the rich tax avoiders. The problem is they are targeting the average joe rather than the super rich.

[Gentile]

It's the public sector way firstly they don't have a clue how to run projects and then secondly they don't know what they want so they're always over budget. When I was a permie at Companies House they spent 40 million implementing a replacement processing system and it was 2 years overdue

You're right. But counting the positives, have you noticed how many repressive regimes have truly efficient Public Sectors? Maybe it's just as well that those in power don't know how to put together a spreadsheet, much less efficiently manage all the data about us that they'd like to exercise complete control over?

[d000hg]

£220 would be a massive pay rise surely?

[northernladuk]

But this thread is about my contract, it's like saying there should only be one IR35 thread.

Yeah but thought for all those that DGAS about your contract might be more interested in the other one.

[d000hg]

Actually I didn't see a reference to £220 in the other thread, what's the significance?

[louie]

Actually I didn't see a reference to £220 in the other thread, what's the significance?

If you earn more than that per day and your contract has ran for over 6 months. U payin 40% tax bro!

[FiveTimes]

If you earn more than that per day and your contract has ran for over 6 months. U payin 40% tax bro!

only accept the contract with a 5 month, 3 week, 6 day period