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Is outsourcing the cause of RBS debacle?

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    #41
    One small step in the right direction ... as I remember eFC was traditionally 100% pro outsourcing.

    Why RBS
    If UKIP are the answer, then it must have been a very stupid question.

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      #42
      Originally posted by mos View Post
      One small step in the right direction ... as I remember eFC was traditionally 100% pro outsourcing.

      Why RBS
      I find it odd that RBS is claiming a big increase in IT spend in the last 3 years.

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        #43
        Originally posted by minestrone View Post
        I find it odd that RBS is claiming a big increase in IT spend in the last 3 years.
        Probably it takes into account the amount of money spent sorting out all the c**k ups offshore, onshore!
        "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what's for lunch." - Orson Welles

        Norrahe's blog

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          #44
          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          I find it odd that RBS is claiming a big increase in IT spend in the last 3 years.
          Outsourcing only looks cheap until you notice all the things you forgot to mention in the contract and discover that its now a £1000 a day minimum charge out 1 day.
          merely at clientco for the entertainment

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            #45
            It is down to middle management butt kissing.

            That get given a budget of x and will gain brownie point and maybe a small kick back if they can spend less money

            so it means middle management no longer try and put projects live

            they try and save as much money as possible while giving excuses for projects not going live... normally trying to blame it on other staff....

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              #46
              Originally posted by original PM View Post
              It is down to middle management butt kissing.

              That get given a budget of x and will gain brownie point and maybe a small kick back if they can spend less money

              so it means middle management no longer try and put projects live

              they try and save as much money as possible while giving excuses for projects not going live... normally trying to blame it on other staff....
              +1
              one day at a time

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                #47
                On my first contract I worked with an Offshore development in Vietnam, holy ***t it was hard work and things always got misinterpreted. Even though they were really cheap the time it took to get things in production was unbelieveably slow is was horrendous.
                In Scooter we trust

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by eek View Post
                  Outsourcing only looks cheap until you notice all the things you forgot to mention in the contract and discover that its now a £1000 a day minimum charge out 1 day.
                  But outsourcing looks great for the UK Managers who can now put a definite £ amount on the projects they're (mis)managing.

                  "Managed UK rollout of sharepoint "

                  becomes

                  "Negotiated and managed a £3million global sharepoint impletementation."
                  Coffee's for closers

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by eek View Post
                    Outsourcing only looks cheap until you notice all the things you forgot to mention in the contract and discover that its now a £1000 a day minimum charge out 1 day.
                    And just changing the time a job runs costs that sort of money.
                    Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
                      But outsourcing looks great for the UK Managers who can now put a definite £ amount on the projects they're (mis)managing.

                      "Managed UK rollout of sharepoint "

                      becomes

                      "Negotiated and managed a £3million global sharepoint impletementation."
                      l

                      incompletementation
                      Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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