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    #11
    Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
    name a British manufacturer of back end telecoms kit. No matter who they bought the equipment from, it is inevitable that foreign workers will be drafted in to perform the maintenance
    Hmm, not the case with the 2 phone companies I've worked for - but then I don't treat the EU as outsourcing, since we're supposed to have freedom of movement etc.

    But china or anyone outside the EU, is a step too far.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
      name a British manufacturer of back end telecoms kit. No matter who they bought the equipment from, it is inevitable that foreign workers will be drafted in to perform the maintenance
      I could name you one but it might give away current clientco

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        #13
        Originally posted by Scoobos View Post
        It's also our critical infrastructure nowadays - this sort of stuff certainly shouldn't sit in the hands of a Communist Super Power with a track record of hideous crimes against its own population.

        <tin foil hat on>
        The US refuse to have Huawei in their core ATM network as they have a habit of "snooping" and monitoring.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
          name a British manufacturer of back end telecoms kit. No matter who they bought the equipment from, it is inevitable that foreign workers will be drafted in to perform the maintenance
          Yes, but the difference is that for a US or Canadian company might be most cost effective to train and have local work force where as a Chinese company would be better off flying their own staff.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Scoobos View Post
            Network down for the second time in less than a month.

            O2 outsources core network management to Huawei


            Don't know if anyones posted this, but we love to get stuck into really misguided decisions to outsource, don't we?
            All the staff transferred under TUPE so its the same staff as O2 had.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Sockpuppet View Post
              All the staff transferred under TUPE so its the same staff as O2 had.
              Yes, that's the first step to being replaced later usually - TUPE is a bit TUliPE when it comes to securing jobs in long term.

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                #17
                We never had these problems with System X.

                Or did we?

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                  #18
                  Boom Boom!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sockpuppet View Post
                    All the staff transferred under TUPE so its the same staff as O2 had.
                    At the start.

                    But when one leaves do you think that their replacement won't be an import?

                    I watched that happening at one city finance company. The day to day operations were outsourced to a well known french IT services firm.

                    The original staff all were all taken on initially, but it didn't take too long before the databases were all operated by their own people in India and the basic lifting and plugging stuff together work was being done by ICT people from India.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
                      At the start.

                      But when one leaves do you think that their replacement won't be an import?

                      I watched that happening at one city finance company. The day to day operations were outsourced to a well known french IT services firm.

                      The original staff all were all taken on initially, but it didn't take too long before the databases were all operated by their own people in India and the basic lifting and plugging stuff together work was being done by ICT people from India.
                      yep hold the wages down, make it uncomfortable and backfill with el cheapos.
                      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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