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    #51
    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Is the lack of hurricanes in the US also due to global warming climate change climate disruption?

    No Major U.S. Hurricane Hits This Season Would Set Record at Sixth Year - Bloomberg
    You don't understand irony do you?

    All these records being broken....

    Wonder what would cause something like that...

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      #52
      Climate is always changing and always has done.

      Remember the cold days in the late sixties and early seventies when boffins were predicting a new ice age?

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        #53
        Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
        Climate is always changing and always has done.

        Remember the cold days in the late sixties and early seventies when boffins were predicting a new ice age?
        Indeed climate scientists were worried because of a record cold US winter, and record levels of ice at the arctic.

        Is anyone old enough to remember the winter of 1963 ? Highly unusual.
        Last edited by BlasterBates; 10 July 2012, 08:34.
        I'm alright Jack

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          #54
          Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
          So the weathermen are blaming the jet stream again, but it is another flash in the pan or is it moving on a permanent basis? Apparently it's moved south this time and we are getting Scotland's weather, but I thought climate changers were predicting it would [slowly] drift north.
          The version of events that I've been reading go along the lines of the jet stream being pushed further south due to the melting of arctic ice. The jet stream occurs where there is a gradient between warm and cold air and this boundary has effectively been pushed south.

          On the other hand, there's some bloke called Piers Corbyn who thinks the shift is down to solar activity.

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            #55
            Of course as part of the US goes though a heat wave, no-one wants to mention the unusual cooling in the southern hemisphere:

            Cold Snap Claims 14 Lives In Chile…Agricultural Emergency In Argentina…Tasmania Coldest Temperature In 30 Years…
            I'm alright Jack

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              #56
              There seems to be a lot of tulip talked about thinning ice at the pole being the harbinger of doom.

              I doubt anyone here will remember, but in the late 1950s and early 1960s the ice was very thin and broken up as far north as the pole itself. Here's photos from 1959 and 1962.



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                #57
                We saw these kinds of heat waves in the 1930′s, and those were definitely not caused by greenhouse gases. Weather variability changes on multidecadal time scales, associated with the large ocean oscillations. I don’t think that what we are seeing this summer is outside the range of natural variability for the past century. In terms of heat waves, particularly in cities, urbanization can also contribute to the warming (the so-called urban heat island effect).
                Prof. Judith Curry

                What global warming looks like (?) | Climate Etc.
                I'm alright Jack

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                  No it isn't a heatwave on a scale they've never seen before. There was a worse heatwave in the 1930's. That was the infamous "dustbowl".

                  People just come out with hysterical statements and everyone latches on. can you imagine if the dustbowl were to reoccur what everyone would be blaming it on.

                  As for the flooding, scientists have looked at this and concluded the flooding is mainly due to construction i.e. land drainage and removing flood plains.

                  But then that would just get in the way of the dramatic headlines.
                  I'll try help you, but I'm wasting my breath .

                  One offs fine, year on year simultaneous freak weather conditions are not.

                  Construction doesn't cause rainfall, it causes floods if you have massive rainfall. we are having record RAINFALL.

                  This is YEAR on YEAR change on every continent too. Having travelled all around the world in the last 5 years, nearly everyone is worried OR saying its a one off - EVERY year to every event. Natural or not, somethings happening and it's about time we stopped arguing about how much effect we have, and respect that we are having an effect - and should do everything we can to reduce it.

                  But you get back in your landy and close your eyes, no worries...
                  Last edited by Scoobos; 10 July 2012, 12:18.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
                    So the weathermen are blaming the jet stream again, but it is another flash in the pan or is it moving on a permanent basis? Apparently it's moved south this time and we are getting Scotland's weather, but I thought climate changers were predicting it would [slowly] drift north.
                    Me too, strange isn't it...

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                      Of course as part of the US goes though a heat wave, no-one wants to mention the unusual cooling in the southern hemisphere:

                      Cold Snap Claims 14 Lives In Chile…Agricultural Emergency In Argentina…Tasmania Coldest Temperature In 30 Years…
                      Last quotey post from me, but have you changed your side half way through a thread? Your link supports the theory of climate change doesn't it?

                      "It’s another unusually cold winter striking the continent. Last year, hundreds froze to death. The same occurred in the winter of 2010."
                      Last edited by Scoobos; 10 July 2012, 12:18.

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