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Why are the French Getting an MP for London?

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    #21
    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    NO, they aren't disenfranchised because even before this new idea, there were French MPs who stood up for their interests. You're really confused about cause and effect. I could suggest a course in critical thinking.
    I'm not confused about anything and, frankly, your insults about my intelligence are just tedious.

    These French people who come here.
    What sort of demographic do you think they fit into? I'll tell you - by and large they will be largely of the professional classes. Not economic migrants escaping hardship. Do you really think some charismatic leader would whip them up into a frenzy because they didn't have the vote? Nonsense. If they felt that strongly, they'd all had back to Calais. Honestly

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      #22
      Originally posted by pacharan View Post
      I'm not confused about anything and, frankly, your insults about my intelligence are just tedious.

      These French people who come here.
      What sort of demographic do you think they fit into? I'll tell you - by and large they will be largely of the professional classes. Not economic migrants escaping hardship. Do you really think some charismatic leader would whip them up into a frenzy because they didn't have the vote? Nonsense. If they felt that strongly, they'd all had back to Calais. Honestly
      You're right; you don't need my help to insult your intelligence. You can do that yourself.

      Secondly, not right now, no, but annoy them enough with silly legislation about foreigners or silly French tax or property laws and they might just get pissed off. But I'm not primarily referring to expats who are doing OK; I'm referring to many millions of people who pay tax but don't get a say in what happens with it; that's a recipe for trouble.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #23
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        But I'm not primarily referring to expats who are doing OK; I'm referring to many millions of people who pay tax but don't get a say in what happens with it; that's a recipe for trouble.
        What, so if you pay tax here you should get the vote in UK elections?

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          #24
          This new law has nothing to do with the EU. If the UK left the EU tomorrow then an MP (who lives in France) would still represent them.

          The reason they've done this is to give French people who live abroad representation in France.

          The equivalent would be for an MP in the UK to be elected to represent UK citizens in the US.
          Last edited by BlasterBates; 7 June 2012, 10:07.
          I'm alright Jack

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            #25
            No sneering at David Icke. Sound chap! I bet z agrees.
            bloggoth

            If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
            John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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              #26
              Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
              This new law has nothing to do with the EU. If the UK left the EU tomorrow then an MP (who lives in France) would still represent them.

              The reason they've done this is to give French people who live abroad representation in France.

              The equivalent would be for an MP in the UK to be elected to represent UK citizens in the US.

              This isn't an EU rule/law and has absolutely nothing to do with the EU.
              But, as Xoggoth pointed out, it sets up an apparatus in which it would not be a huge leap to have regional representation. Thats how this whole EU dictatorship is being imposed on us - a gradual ratchetting up.

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                #27
                Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
                No sneering at David Icke. Sound chap! I bet z agrees.
                I doubt it. He's discovered cunning plan #3167

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by pacharan View Post
                  But, as Xoggoth pointed out, it sets up an apparatus in which it would not be a huge leap to have regional representation. Thats how this whole EU dictatorship is being imposed on us - a gradual ratchetting up.
                  no...they included Norway in the region and Norway isn't in the EU, nor has plans to join the EU.

                  This is to allow French people who live abroad inside and outside the EU to have a say in French affairs. If enough French people live in the US they might do the same there too one day.

                  This is not a French MP who sits in the UK parliament it's a French MP who lives in France and makes laws in France, these laws have no impact on Norway or the UK. They' are probably doing this because the French government want to tax French citizens abroad so by giving them a representative in the French parliement will enable them to argue that they have taxation with representation, otherwise there would be a big hoo hah. They want to tax rich French people 75% and they'll all bugger off so that's why they're doing this.
                  Last edited by BlasterBates; 7 June 2012, 10:25.
                  I'm alright Jack

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                    no...they included Norway in the region and Norway isn't in the EU, nor has plans to join the EU.

                    This is to allow French people who live abroad inside and outside the EU to have a say in French affairs. If enough French people live in the US they might do the same there too one day.

                    This is not a French MP who sits in the UK parliament it's a French MP who lives in France and makes laws in France, these laws have no impact on Norway or the UK. They' are probably doing this because the French government want to tax French citizens abroad so by giving them a representative in the French parliement will enable them to argue that they have taxation with representation, otherwise there would be a big hoo hah. They want to tax rich French people 75% and they'll all bugger off so that's why they're doing this.
                    Do you think rational argument will really help?
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                      no...they included Norway in the region and Norway isn't in the EU, nor has plans to join the EU.

                      This is to allow French people who live abroad inside and outside the EU to have a say in French affairs. If enough French people live in the US they might do the same there too one day.

                      This is not a French MP who sits in the UK parliament it's a French MP who lives in France and makes laws in France, these laws have no impact on Norway or the UK. They' are probably doing this because the French government want to tax French citizens abroad so by giving them a representative in the French parliement will enable them to argue that they have taxation with representation, otherwise there would be a big hoo hah. They want to tax rich French people 75% and they'll all bugger off so that's why they're doing this.
                      It's these points he's missing.

                      Now, where did I put that tin foil hat....

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