i agree to some extent. my only issue with national service though is the morality of murdering people for a job.
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Originally posted by wim121 View PostSome of you disagree, which I find sad and inexperienced.
That is foolish in a number of ways.
If the government removed the alternative rather than flooding the market with cheap highly qualified alternatives employers wouldn't have a choice but to choose home grown.
If the government educated the hoodies and instilled a work ethic in them during the legally enforced schooling period while they have them at their mercy.
If the Government removed the cushy hammock of benefits and made being unemployed uncomfortable the young are less likely to present themselves as hoodies at least at work.
If the government subsidised the businesses to act as social workers and supported them by removing their ability to fire them at the drop of a hat without facing spurious legal proceedings then business may be willing to take a chance. See the Poundland flouncer & the Tesco indignation killing the work experience scheme.
Been there managed acquired talent to be better, but I still prefer hiring my own. The cost of the risk is substantial.
now Inexperienced?Last edited by vetran; 19 April 2012, 11:11.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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This whole sorry situation is the consequence of the overbearing nanny state. In close communities miscreants would have been sorted out by the local communities by being made to work (which is what the "big society" is trying to return us to). However because we have this huge welfare state that is supposed to take responsibility for the social ills of society (most of which it creates by delivering appalling standards of education and care) no one has any sense of social/community responsibility.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by wim121 View Posti agree to some extent. my only issue with national service though is the morality of murdering people for a job.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post(which is what the "big society" is trying to return us to).
Big Society is a load of bulltulip - the base premise of it is to cut costs on a local level and expect people to do charity work for free.
Needless to say it won't work.Comment
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Originally posted by wim121 View PostSome of you disagree, which I find sad and inexperienced.
Some young people, without direction, can become model employees. I feel some do need a chance.
Often what you find, is it is not the job, but the kind boss that moulds and encourages a sub par team member, spotting qualities in them they werent even aware of. I have seen quite a few 'aimless wasters', go on to be great professionals after someone was willing to invest the effort in to encouraging them to be the best that they can ....
However I will agree, excellent mentors still cant help everyone. Some are always going to be feckless wasters which is sad.
So lead by example and employ one of them. why is it we are always telling other people what to do?Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by AtW View Post
Big Society is a load of bulltulip - the base premise of it is to cut costs on a local level and expect people to do charity work for free.
Needless to say it won't work.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by wim121 View Posti agree to some extent. my only issue with national service though is the morality of murdering people for a job.
they are laughing at us. you want it, come and have some
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhy shouldnt we do it for free?Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostWhy do you expect others to work for free doing a pretty hard job?Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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