Originally posted by Scoobos
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as a final rebuke, as we just have different points of view, I still find it a bit incredible that everyone assumes that we all have the same mental capacity.
Most with a Lower mental capacity(Retarded and downes syndrome for example) are the warmest nicest loving personalities you could ever hope to meet. don't use mental capacity as an excuse for these scum.
Most "chavs" are uneducated and are cheaper to have in manual labour than to pay for in crime, social costs and externalities.
Most of the antisocial chavs would rather claim benefits, steal or deal drugs than do a days labour.
Being unemployed and unemployable based on not meeting the Cookie cutter requirement of "business based" education - is soul destroying. I feel passionately about this as I've been affected by friends topping themselves over this.
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Keeping mines (excuse the choice of industry) open at a loss, doesn't cost as much as trying to support a "booming" population of uneducated working classes with nothing to do other than claim benefits in a system they get trapped in.
There's always work if you are willing to do it. I've dug ditches, cleaned windows and done gardening for a pittance in between proper jobs, so have both of my brothers so the system trap is a myth.
Diver, not singling you out - I just picked your post - that said when I said "born elsewhere" I meant into another family etc.
I have 2 friends who were born into a low life thieving alcoholic family. one is a local magistrate and the other a well respected local businessman (their sister was a hooker and an addict but that was Her choice)
Surely even the most stalwart "everyone's got the same opportunity as me supporter" accepts that in reality a lot of it is down to chance? Dont you?
No! It is down to choice. if there's no work where you are, move to somewhere where there is work. My father walked from S Wales to the midlands in the 60's to find work, and I moved to Brighton for work, leaving my family behind, when I needed to.
Let me set my cards on the table though, as it might surprise:
I do believe that our law enforcement has been totally dumbed down and should still have the power to use necessary force.
I do believe that our teachers and authority figures have been totally disarmed, my wife is a teacher and she's been told not to touch children EVER - in case they call human rights etc - STUPID.
But that said
I don't believe that its a result of socialism, quite the opposite in fact.
But I do know, that no one really cares what I think
Most with a Lower mental capacity(Retarded and downes syndrome for example) are the warmest nicest loving personalities you could ever hope to meet. don't use mental capacity as an excuse for these scum.
Most "chavs" are uneducated and are cheaper to have in manual labour than to pay for in crime, social costs and externalities.
Most of the antisocial chavs would rather claim benefits, steal or deal drugs than do a days labour.
Being unemployed and unemployable based on not meeting the Cookie cutter requirement of "business based" education - is soul destroying. I feel passionately about this as I've been affected by friends topping themselves over this.
See above
Keeping mines (excuse the choice of industry) open at a loss, doesn't cost as much as trying to support a "booming" population of uneducated working classes with nothing to do other than claim benefits in a system they get trapped in.
There's always work if you are willing to do it. I've dug ditches, cleaned windows and done gardening for a pittance in between proper jobs, so have both of my brothers so the system trap is a myth.
Diver, not singling you out - I just picked your post - that said when I said "born elsewhere" I meant into another family etc.
I have 2 friends who were born into a low life thieving alcoholic family. one is a local magistrate and the other a well respected local businessman (their sister was a hooker and an addict but that was Her choice)
Surely even the most stalwart "everyone's got the same opportunity as me supporter" accepts that in reality a lot of it is down to chance? Dont you?
No! It is down to choice. if there's no work where you are, move to somewhere where there is work. My father walked from S Wales to the midlands in the 60's to find work, and I moved to Brighton for work, leaving my family behind, when I needed to.
Let me set my cards on the table though, as it might surprise:
I do believe that our law enforcement has been totally dumbed down and should still have the power to use necessary force.
I do believe that our teachers and authority figures have been totally disarmed, my wife is a teacher and she's been told not to touch children EVER - in case they call human rights etc - STUPID.
But that said
I don't believe that its a result of socialism, quite the opposite in fact.
But I do know, that no one really cares what I think
the choice of how to behave is made by the individual. there are No excuses
Never
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