I'm getting fat and I know why....

[EternalOptimist]

World Health Organisation.

WHO | Air quality and health

Ehrlich was optimistic, looks like.

Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
Sen. Gaylord Nelson, Earth day 1970


yes that really is his name. Nelson

[pjclarke]

Earth Day 1970 marked the point at which the Green movement started to get traction in the political mainstream. Sure there were some extreme and nutty predictions. I also recall nuclear power too cheap to meter, flying cars and unlimited leisure time being due before now.

On the other hand before then environmental regulation was pretty much nonexistent. In the following decades we have had the Montreal protocols, taken lead out of petrol, cleaned up rivers and saved countless lives due to clean air acts. The great London smog of 1952 killed about 4,000.

Now a thing of the past thanks to 'green eejits'.

[EternalOptimist]

Earth Day 1970 marked the point at which the Green movement started to get traction in the political mainstream. Sure there were some extreme and nutty predictions. I also recall nuclear power too cheap to meter, flying cars and unlimited leisure time being due before now.

On the other hand before then environmental regulation was pretty much nonexistent. In the following decades we have had the Montreal protocols, taken lead out of petrol, cleaned up rivers and saved countless lives due to clean air acts. The great London smog of 1952 killed about 4,000.

Now a thing of the past thanks to 'green eejits'.

It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day


it's important for us to remember the track record of the eco-nutters pj, you cry wolf too often. The environmental movement had its niche, which was cleaning rivers and stopping smog, we were all with them on that, when they wanted to help people. But it's clear that some of these people(above) were relishing the coming disasters. You can almost hear them smacking their lips in anticipation


'Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist 1970

[BlasterBates]

It's on the wane, no doubt. The Spiegel has run an article on it.

Spiegel Lets The Genie Out – Writes On Germany’s “Church of Environmentalism” And “Its Absurdities”

I think within 10 years environmentalism will be back to where it was and where it should be, picking up litter in the parks and complaining about dirty rivers and beaches.

[EternalOptimist]

It's on the wane, no doubt. The Spiegel has run an article on it.

Spiegel Lets The Genie Out – Writes On Germany’s “Church of Environmentalism” And “Its Absurdities”

I think within 10 years environmentalism will be back to where it was and where it should be, picking up litter in the parks and complaining about dirty rivers and beaches.

aye. here's hoping

Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
-Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

[pjclarke]

'Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

Such an shortage of failed predictions that you have to recycle them, huh? Says it all.

[DimPrawn]

This is all very well, but what about my bulging waistline?

[BlasterBates]

'Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

Such an shortage of failed predictions that you have to recycle them, huh? Says it all.

Pretty impressive failure for a scientist.

what about comparing James Hansens scenarios with current temperatures, and where are the high winds around his office or the sea level lapping up on to the road below his office.

Then there's the death of forests not to mention the coming ice age, running out of oil by 2000, extinction of the polar bear, methane hydrates, mass extinction from from an expanding ozone hole etc etc etc.

Dr David Viner??

...oh and the Himalayan Glaciers lets not forget those shall we.

All in all a pretty impressive list of failures. No-one believes you now I'm afraid. That's just a fact.

[EternalOptimist]

'Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

Such an shortage of failed predictions that you have to recycle them, huh? Says it all.

dont panic. I'm still doing 1970

we'll move onto 1971 tomorrow

[pjclarke]

Pretty impressive failure for a scientist.

Figures on actual starvation are difficult to come by, but according to the FAO, the less severe condition of undernourishment currently affects about 925 million people, or about 14 % of the world population

Starvation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It makes no sense that Ehrlich is now criticized as being alarmist because his dire warnings did not, in the main, come true. But it was because of such warnings from Ehrlich and others that countries took action to avoid potential disaster

Carl Haub Population reference bureau

what about comparing James Hansens scenarios with current temperatures, and where are the high winds around his office or the sea level lapping up on to the road below his office.

More inaccurate media quotes , as ever. His 1988 published predictions have shown a high degree of skill, especially compared with a null hypothesis of no warming, or cooling, and particularly considering the state of the science and modelling at the time.

Then there's the death of forests not to mention the coming ice age, running out of oil by 2000, extinction of the polar bear, methane hydrates, mass extinction from from an expanding ozone hole etc etc etc.

Citations needed. I am surprised you bring up the ozone hole as that is a prime example of nations successfully collaborating to reduce emissions of a harmful gas in response to a global environmental problem. That's why I cited the Montreal Protocols. It can happen then.

Dr David Viner??

AGAIN!? A piece of rubbish and inaccurate journalism from over a decade ago. You really are short of material.

...oh and the Himalayan Glaciers lets not forget those shall we.

Corrected by the removal of a single line from a multithousand page report.

All in all a pretty impressive list of failures. No-one believes you now I'm afraid. That's just a fact.

No, it is an uninformed opinion.