I'm getting fat and I know why....

[BlasterBates]

inaccurate journalism from over a decade ago. You really are short of material.

citation please from Dr David Viner, or did you or a blogger make it up.

As per the Himlayan glacier statement. Glad you admit it.

That was a huge failure, wasn't it.

[pjclarke]

That was a huge failure, wasn't it.

Well, as I'm sure you know the IPCC consists of 3 Working Groups. Anyone interested in the future of the Himalayan Glaciers would logically have turned first to the report of WG1 -The Physical Science Basis. There they would have found a perfectly sensible and properly-sourced discussion of the glaciers written by glaciologists. Regrettably, the authors in WG2, who did not include a single glaciologist, saw fit to include in their report on Adaptation and Vulnerability a line based on a New Scientist article which turned out to be inaccurate. Had they followed the IPCC guidelines on sources, or asked their WG1 colleagues to review the material, the slip would not have occurred.

So we have a single factual error in 3,000+ pages, buried in the detail of WG2. It did not appear in Technical Summary, the Summary for Policymakers, or the Synthesis Report, which may explain why it went unremarked for 2 years ...

A huge failure, hmmmmm.

citation please from Dr David Viner,

I assumed you were referring to the most-cited entry in your slim portfolio of media and blog quotes.

According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".

Its a pisspoor piece because it conflates Viner's very few words with a timescale provided by the journalist. The science at the time (or since) was saying nothing of the sort, so what Viner actually meant in context is anybody's guess.

You may remember my challenge to find a contemperaneous primary source saying the same thing?

Anyhow, your favourite climatologist, Judith Curry, recently coauthored a paper that found decreasing Arctic sea ice is affecting atmospheric circulation, bringing more snow to Northern Europe, America and Asia.

So what is a good sceptic going to do - accept the latest science or continue to parrot poor journalism from 10 years ago?

[EternalOptimist]

So, we were right all along , yet

The mastermind behind the IPCC called it voodoo science.

[pjclarke]

Who is this 'we', what exactly were you right about and do you think in tabloid headlines or just write in them?

[d000hg]

Every time someone opens their trap on gasses in the air, I chuckle as they don't seem to understand what air is composed of, how it is mostly nitrogen and carbon dioxide is almost a trace gas.

What's it being a trace component got to do with anything?

Have you actually studied chemistry?

I have. And you're splitting meaningless hairs in this case.

[wim121]

What's it being a trace component got to do with anything?

The way some people carry on and the ridiculous comments you hear from people lead you to believe they think air is composed of 60% oxygen and 39% carbon dioxide and that soon, carbon dioxide will be in higher concentrations than oxygen, ahhhhhh Jebus, save us!

The point is carbon dioxide barely registers as a component of air, so who cares if levels rise a little? In the grand scheme of things, the overall chemistry of air is barely changed.

[pjclarke]

The point is carbon dioxide barely registers as a component of air, so who cares if levels rise a little? In the grand scheme of things, the overall chemistry of air is barely changed.

True. There again you can turn clear glass any colour you like with the addition of elements at the rate of a few ppm. Or similarly alter the radiative properties of a planetary atmosphere by increasing the concentrations of greenhouse gases by a third ...

CO2 is just a trace gas

[wim121]

Touche good sir.

[eek]

'CO2 in the atmosphere is making us all fatter': Researcher says we are increasing in size as gas levels go up | Mail Online


You 4x4 driving ****ers, please walk.



Anyway, back to my roast hog dinner.

Thanks for listening.

Any excuse you lazy cream cake diet fatty. Now get some exercise.

[original PM]

True. There again you can turn clear glass any colour you like with the addition of elements at the rate of a few ppm. Or similarly alter the radiative properties of a planetary atmosphere by increasing the concentrations of greenhouse gases by a third ...

CO2 is just a trace gas

Hmm Maths!

Addition of a few ppm - thats like what an increase of say 0.000000001%?

Raise greenhouse gasses by a concetration of a third - thats 33%

They are not comparable at all