Open letter to those who think that the word "Paki" is illegal.

[amcdonald]

BBC NEWS | Politics | BNP founder Tyndall dies aged 71
He wasn't a racist he was just an admirer of Adolf Hitler's work. Is the one in the middle Churchil?

Is it the Hitler cat fanclub ?

[ZARDOZ]

Is it the Hitler cat fanclub ?

I think this thread is the Hitler Dog fanclub

[wim121]

You are not making a point you are ranting and making yourself look like a fool, clearly judging by the insults you are getting a little emotional, so I'll be easy on you.

I wasn't ranting at all. I was making clear points, addressing each of the issues raised in BB's post that was a counter to one of mine.

That is not ranting at all. That is called "having a discussion". One expresses a view/fact and then the other counters it.

Furthermore, yourself as well as others were the only immature people to use insults. Instead of trying to converse with me on an intellectual level, you behaved like a little naughty child. Instead of accusing others of "clutching at straws", ask if you do not understand English.

You list some Ulster Unionists who went to prison at the height of the Anglo Irish troubles ergo the BNP are no better and no worse than those.

Wrong. If you knew them, you would know none of their crimes they were incarcerated for included any form of terrorism. They were mostly car/licensing crimes. A charge of terrorism would hold a sentence of longer than a year, disbarring the said MP when sentenced. I did state that clearly before but you obviously didn't read what was posted at all. I clearly stated that those MP's retained their seat while being in prison, something that isn't possible on a terrorism charge as that carries a sentence of over a year.

The BNP as well, have never been involved in the levels of terrorism that England suffered from the IRA for the best part of a century. That is quite an insult against all those who lost their lives and were injured at the hands of the IRA.

The BNP aren't the only party with racism in it's ranks, yet that is the one some of you seem to focus on. What about:
Cardiff councillor Ralph Cook

The former Labour group leader on the city council admitted he was “shaken to the core” when an ombudsman’s provisional report indicated he might be branded anti-semitic for repeatedly comparing Jewish council leader Rodney Berman’s coalition administration to Adolf Hitler’s Nazi regime

Apparently some MPs are pedophiles, others like Ladyboys, (of which you provide no evidence), do you like ladyboys?

Would you care not to be a hypocrite and avoid the insults? I couldn't care less, but your lack of reading skills shows that you are the only fool here.

I can not be held accountable for your lack of interest in these matters and my name isn't google. However since you seem so incapable of the simplest task:

Let me google that for you

A few examples, just in case you are incapable of clicking a link like your inability to use google:

Eric Joyce - Labour - 2012

A British member of parliament has been convicted of assault after attacking colleagues in a bar inside the houses of parliament was given a 12-month community service order after admitting that he assaulted four people.

Eric Illsley - Labour - 2011

The member for Barnsley Central became the first sitting MP to be convicted of expenses fraud when he admitted dishonestly claiming more than £14,000.

Jim Devine - Labour - 2011

He shamefully refused to admit to fiddling his expenses.

But yesterday a jury took little more than two hours to condemn Jim Devine as a liar and find him guilty of plundering thousands from the taxpayer. Devine submitted £8,385 worth of false expenses between 2008 and 2009, backed up with seven bogus invoices. He also created two false invoices totalling £5,505 for stationery.

Edward Woollard - Labour - 2011

And yet the Labour MP convicted of expenses fraud only got 18 months in prison.

If I could be bothered, I would look for more crimes and ones greater in criminal degree such as abuse cases but they take a while longer to find due to such cases being hushed up or articles retracted afterwards.

Crime exists everywhere, in all parties.

What the feck is your point? It seems like gibberish.

I have stated my point many times now. Just because the BNP has members who have criminal records, does not mean that other parties are more legitimate, as nearly all parties have criminals in them, some convicted of far worse crimes than mindless thuggery.

Is that simple enough for you or do I need to dumb it down further?

[ZARDOZ]

Wrong. If you knew them, you would know none of their crimes they were incarcerated for included any form of terrorism. They were mostly car/licensing crimes. A charge of terrorism would hold a sentence of longer than a year, disbarring the said MP when sentenced. I did state that clearly before but you obviously didn't read what was posted at all. I clearly stated that those MP's retained their seat while being in prison, something that isn't possible on a terrorism charge as that carries a sentence of over a year.

Most of them were for
Failure to pay fine following conviction of taking part in a public
procession contrary to Public Order (Northern Ireland) Order
1987 (article 3)

Which is very much related to the Anglo Irish troubles. This in no way makes a counter argument to the legitimacy of the BNP or their hate crimes. You go on to list some other crimes that have nothing to do with your pedophilia/TV rant (strange that should be in the forefront of your mind...

There are many from other parties who are convicted kiddy fiddlers/sex criminals or just enjoy dubious abusive sex with eastern lady boys

As yet you haven't listed any of those but the link you are trying to make is so tenuous you might as well give up now and leave the debating to the big boys. Now run along little boy.

[wim121]

Most of them were for
Failure to pay fine following conviction of taking part in a public
procession contrary to Public Order (Northern Ireland) Order
1987 (article 3)

And "Failure to pay fine following conviction of using a motor vehicle not exhibiting a licence". Glad to see you have attempted to use google then. However that means that I fail to understand the following comment.

You go on to list some other crimes that have nothing to do with your pedophilia/TV rant (strange that should be in the forefront of your mind...

TV rant? What are you smoking you queer little man? I said:

who are convicted kiddy fiddlers/sex criminals or just enjoy dubious abusive sex with eastern lady boys.

So after just a couple of minutes of using google, I will satisfy most of that statement. As I said before though, my time is valuable and I am not google and will not waste too much of my valuable time googling something you can easily do yourself.

If you used google before hammering reply, you might have seen just a few notorious cases like these ones which don't just cover what I said originally but other depraved and illegal acts:

Accused sex criminal

MP was arrested on suspicion of sexual assault.

Andrew Bridgen, the married 46-year-old MP for North-West Leicestershire, right, was released on bail after being held by police in Westminster.

It is understood the alleged incident involved a 29-year-old woman and took place in the MP's flat in Pimlico, near the Commons.

Dubious sex

Mr Milligan, 45, was found dead at his home in Chiswick, west London, yesterday afternoon by his secretary, Vera Taggart.

One officer said: "The body was naked except for a pair of stockings and suspenders."

But he refused to comment on rumours the politician was also bound and gagged. Results of final forensic tests released three days later found Stephen Milligan had died of asphyxiation from the electrical flex tied in a noose round his neck.

Illicit Gay sex

Ron Davies stands down from Welsh assembly following accusations of illicit gay sex.

Unlawful sexual intercourse a.k.a. statuary rape

Jerry Hayes was "outed" as a homosexual by the News of the World.[2] with the headline "TORY MP 2-TIMED WIFE WITH UNDER-AGE GAY LOVER". Hayes had met Young Conservative Paul Stone at the 1991 Conservative conference and that same evening, "committed a lewd act which was in breach of the law at the time". Stone had been 18 at the time, whilst the legal age for homosexual sex in 1991 was 21.[3] He had previously supported Section 28 and other anti-gay legislation. (1997)

Prostitution

Jeffrey Archer and the prostitute allegations (1986), and his subsequent conviction for perjury (2001)

Conspiracy to murder

Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe was arrested and tried for allegedly paying a hitman to murder his homosexual lover, model Norman Scott, while walking his dog on Exmoor

More prostitutes and a faked death

Earl Jellicoe and Lord Lambton sex scandal (1973): Conservatives, junior defence minister Lambton is arrested for using prostitutes and Cabinet minister Jellicoe also confesses.

Labour MP John Stonehouse's faked suicide (1974)


Prostitution and treason

Secretary of State for War John Profumo had an affair with prostitute Christine Keeler (to whom he had been introduced by pimp and drug-dealer Stephen Ward) who was having an affair with a Soviet spy at the same time.

This in no way makes a counter argument to the legitimacy of the BNP or their hate crimes.

Did I ever say I support the BNP? No. In fact I stated who I voted for in the last GE. Did I say the BNP were angels or legitimate? No, but other parties aren't either and if you could see past your hatred, you might be able to recognise that.

As yet you haven't listed any of those but the link you are trying to make is so tenuous you might as well give up now and leave the debating to the big boys. Now run along little boy.

Why should I have to cite every single word? You don't and neither do any other CUK posters. The internet is there for you to check, instead of behaving like a spoilt brat.

Not that this conversation even involved yourself in the first place, so why don't you do us all a favour and go back to porking your father instead of interjecting in others conversations.

[BlasterBates]

The Nazi party was also just a small party, considered fairly harmless, at one point. Admittedly the BNP aren't in the same league, but still worrying nevertheless the fact that many of them have at least in the past and probably still do idolise them.

...and yes there are criminals in other political parties, but when they're convicted they resign in disgrace. Nick Griffin's conviction is a badge of honour. Doesn't bode well does it. It is pretty clear that in the event that he were in control, that race hate crimes would be tolerated, as they were in Germany in the 1930's.

[TimberWolf]

As repugnant and unlikely as the BNP party in power would be, would a little "evil" in parliament necessarily be a bad thing? For example in them being vocal on unpopular or undemocratic measures instigated by the major 2 parties, e.g. mass migration, bailing out of the banks, lying in manifestos, troughing on the public purse. Etc. While Labour were in power and up to all kinds of sharp practise, the Tories were quiet as mice.

[ZARDOZ]

What are you smoking you queer little man?

The internet is there for you to check, instead of behaving like a spoilt brat.

go back to porking your father instead of interjecting in others conversations.

You spout gibberish about ladyboys, pedophiles and now incest. You use this to defend the BNP, it isn't working, the argument was poor in the first place, the insults just make you look immature and a bit silly.

From other posts of yours, you appear to have no empathy at all for the rest of humanity, and quite a lot of pent up hatred, all at such a young age. It begs the question what was done to you, it must have been pretty bad.

[sasguru]

some putrid guff.

You seem mentally unbalanced. Get help.
HTH

[Doggy Styles]

You spout gibberish about ladyboys, pedophiles and now incest. You use this to defend the BNP, it isn't working, the argument was poor in the first place, the insults just make you look immature and a bit silly.

From other posts of yours, you appear to have no empathy at all for the rest of humanity, and quite a lot of pent up hatred, all at such a young age. It begs the question what was done to you, it must have been pretty bad.

Closing your mind to the opinions of others doesn't do you any credit. In this debate you sound like a child in a playground.