Make Bratwurst British

[Arturo Bassick]

Because of cultural and historical context.

You will have to expand that one.

[Bunk]

Its you that keeps saying it!!!

Now why is it OK to refer to me as a Brit? If you can not shorten Pakistani then you can not shorten British, because that would be racist.

Because we've never had to put up with being used as an insult. We've never been a minority and had it sneered at us and told to f*** off back home. That's why there are still negative connotations about calling someone a Paki. And if you're going to claim that happens to us in other countries then you may have a point, but that doesn't apply here in this country. A friend of mine told me that people in Pakistan do refer to themselves as Paki's but it's a different context.

[Arturo Bassick]

Because we've never had to put up with being used as an insult. We've never been a minority and had it sneered at us and told to f*** off back home. That's why there are still negative connotations about calling someone a Paki. And if you're going to claim that happens to us in other countries then you may have a point, but that doesn't apply here in this country. A friend of mine told me that people in Pakistan do refer to themselves as Paki's but it's a different context.

but it has been used in a derogatory fashion and regularly is. I have seen many demonstrations outside Parliament with Brits go home being waved by any number foreign chaps with a grievance. Oddly the term was used by many as they drove us out of their own countries (quite rightly BTW) as the Empire shrank only for them to turn up here and then object to similar treatment.
If Pakistanis can use the word to refer to themselves then the word itself is not an insult, only when it is uttered by a non Pakistani and that my friend is racism.

[MarillionFan]

Because we've never had to put up with being used as an insult. We've never been a minority and had it sneered at us and told to f*** off back home. That's why there are still negative connotations about calling someone a Paki. And if you're going to claim that happens to us in other countries then you may have a point, but that doesn't apply here in this country. A friend of mine told me that people in Pakistan do refer to themselves as Paki's but it's a different context.

WBS

I'm amazed that Arturo and the OP are continuing this. They clearly do not f**king get it.

It's got f**k all to do with the shortening of the country but relates to the connotations of it's use. And that word in particular has been hijacked & used as a form of racist abuse, some others have not.

[Churchill]

WBS

I'm amazed that Arturo and the OP are continuing this. They clearly do not f**king get it.

It's got f**k all to do with the shortening of the country but relates to the connotations of it's use. And that word in particular has been hijacked & used as a form of racist abuse, some others have not.

Come on then, show examples of the derogatory use of the word Paki on this forum.

[Bunk]

Come on then, show examples of the derogatory use of the word Paki on this forum.

I'm not saying you used it in a derogatory sense, only that it's been used for so long in that way that it's offensive now, no matter what your intended meaning is.

[MarillionFan]

Come on then, show examples of the derogatory use of the word Paki on this forum.

Show me derogatory uses of the n word on CUK Churchill. You know that's racist, I don't see you throwing that one around.

[northernladuk]

Come on then, show examples of the derogatory use of the word Paki on this forum.

Doesn't your own example of calling it a 'paki shop' rather than a convenience store count or something???

[Churchill]

Doesn't your own example of calling it a 'paki shop' rather than a convenience store count or something???

No, it doesn't. It wasn't meant in a derogatory manner and it I certainly wasn't on a football terrace and using it as part of a racist chant which is illegal.

[Old Greg]

You will have to expand that one.

It has become a racist term in Britain because it has been used by racists within the context of abusing and threatening British Asians, particularly in its usage for the past-time of 'paki-bashing'. This doesn't apply to the word 'Brit' hence the difference.