IR35 - Who's in and who's out?

[DimPrawn]

Does any of that mean they can't sneakily stab him in the back and tell him it's IR35-caught?

Which bit of

Documents show the deal was signed off by David Willetts, the Universities minister, who said in a letter that it had been “agreed by the Chief Secretary to the Treasury” Danny Alexander.

Don't you understand?

Tax is for the little people.

[TheFaQQer]

I don't know anyone caught by IR35.

I do.

I also know people who declare themselves inside, even though I can't see any difference in how they work to other contractors who believe they are outside.

[DimPrawn]

I do.

I also know people who declare themselves inside, even though I can't see any difference in how they work to other contractors who believe they are outside.

Me too. An old contracting chum of mine has ticked the box and paid employee tax since day one, even though he's had a dozen different contracts at different places as he "didn't want the hassle of being outside IR35".

[amoeba]

[URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/9054733/Chief-executive-of-Student-Loans-Company-allowed-to-avoid-40000-a-year-in-tax-by-Coalition.html"]
This allows Mr Lester to pay corporation tax of 21 per cent

Is that article really old, been 20% since 2011 hasnt it?

[d000hg]

Which bit of

Documents show the deal was signed off by David Willetts, the Universities minister, who said in a letter that it had been “agreed by the Chief Secretary to the Treasury” Danny Alexander.

Don't you understand?

A letter saying he was IR35 exempt? Or that he could work through a Ltd? Does Chief Secretary to the Treasury include the power to overule HMRC in individual cases?

[gingerjedi]

Hi all,

Excuse my naivety here, I have a question about the amount of contractors that are outside IR35. From what I understand of it, it sounds so difficult to be outside IR35 that most contractors must bye inside it?

Does anyone know (or hazard a guestimate) what the ratio of software developers that are inside IR35 is to those outside it?

Hector.

You can spot a civil servant from the bad grammar and spelling mistakes.

[beaker]

Hey, who are we to judge? He's on a 24 month contract and it all comes down to working practices, right? Right?

[vetran]

I would suggest the PCG or Shout99 wait a bit then say 'Put up or shut up'. If he is caught we want him done, if he isn't we need a get out of jail free card.

[centurian]

Documents show the deal was signed off by David Willetts, the Universities minister, who said in a letter that it had been “agreed by the Chief Secretary to the Treasury” Danny Alexander.

Which is no different from ClientCo simply stating in a contract that they do not view the relationship as a employer / employee relationship i.e. useless - HMRC can completely ignore it.

In reality though, HMRC are unlikely to go anywhere near it - unless you get some awkward inspector who doesn't like the fact that their kid has to pay higher tuition fees and they have to make higher pension contributions.

[malvolio]

That's buggered the expenses right from the start then.

No it hasn't. They can pay him what they like. Whether or not he pays taxes on it is the interesting question... There's a lot of mis-informed bollocks being thrown around the press, I think we need to understand things a lot better than they do.

One point, though. At £900 a day plus expenses, he's costing HMG £400 a day less than I was last charged out at to them, and I wasn't the boss of the department.