Fraudulent Timesheet – Help and advice required.

[EternalOptimist]

Confirmation then. You are a prime time idiot.

a print out of events from a work pc. you are not only juvenile, but you are thick as a plank.
how would that work for people who dont spend their day at a works pc

or any pc.

think it through before opening gob.

[wim121]

Confirmation then. You are a prime time idiot.

a print out of events from a work pc. you are not only juvenile, but you are thick as a plank.
how would that work for people who dont spend their day at a works pc

or any pc.

think it through before opening gob.

Do you actually want to contribute something instead of playing the fool, which you do oh so well?

I said that was one possibility. I also said something else such as a receipt for petrol after leaving work, anything like that, that would back up the OP's story if so needed.


You are the only prime time idiot here by wasting both of our time with this conversation. Next time, try reading.

[EternalOptimist]

And what is this evidence for ? it is evidence of what exactly ?

It proves nothing. If you claim 8 hours on a timesheet, or charge 8 hours on an invoice, it would take a team of detectives to prove whether you did it or not.

You are living in some sort of fantasy land.

If someone offers to sign off a time sheet in return for a kick back, just say NO. simple

[wim121]

And what is this evidence for ? it is evidence of what exactly ?

It proves nothing. If you claim 8 hours on a timesheet, or charge 8 hours on an invoice, it would take a team of detectives to prove whether you did it or not.

If you work among 299 other colleagues and 290 of them have lied about times on their signed off hours, a detective doesnt need to set in stone your guilt at all.

In such a situation, one has to prove their innocence. If they have hard evidence on 290 and timesheets that seem dodgy for the other 10, then that would be enough evidence for them to prosecute.

You really are a fool and have no knowledge of the legal system. Innocent before guilty is an outmoded concept. The prosecution doesnt even have to prove you did something, just beyond reasonable doubt. A timesheet on it's own, casts little doubt when the problem is so widespread.

You really have a lot to learn about life.

You are living in some sort of fantasy land.

Stop being a and learn to read.

[wim121]

If someone offers to sign off a time sheet in return for a kick back, just say NO. simple

Ummmm duhhh ! I never debated that at all, so why is captain obvious making an appearance?

[EternalOptimist]

If you work among 299 other colleagues and 290 of them have lied about times on their signed off hours, a detective doesnt need to set in stone your guilt at all.

In such a situation, one has to prove their innocence. If they have hard evidence on 290 and timesheets that seem dodgy for the other 10, then that would be enough evidence for them to prosecute.

You really are a fool and have no knowledge of the legal system. Innocent before guilty is an outmoded concept. The prosecution doesnt even have to prove you did something, just beyond reasonable doubt. A timesheet on it's own, casts little doubt when the problem is so widespread.

You really have a lot to learn about life.











Stop being a and learn to read.

the opening poster was one amongst 299 ?

strange. It sounded like one amongst one to me.

maybe I need to learn to read as well as you do


please engage brain before opening gob in future

[wim121]

the opening poster was one amongst 299 ?

strange. It sounded like one amongst one to me.

maybe I need to learn to read as well as you do


please engage brain before opening gob in future

That was called an example to illustrate a point.

I recommend that you go and practice your limited skills with an asylum seeker.

Please learn how to use the English language before opening your filthy trap in future.

[EternalOptimist]

That was called an example to illustrate a point.

I recommend that you go and practice your limited skills with an asylum seeker.

Please learn how to use the English language before opening your filthy trap in future.

my advice to the op is simple. Dont get involved. Dont do it.

I do NOT recommend making screenshots of your pc every 5 minutes just in case someone in the world works a fiddle at some indeterminate time in the future, I do NOT recommend keeping petrol receipts as some sort of insurance policy that proves you were at a petrol station at some specific time.

I would also say to the OP that it is not widespread, in my experience, but it does happen.
I hope you get it sorted, and find peace.

[Scrag Meister]

If you're in finance surely you did the compliance training where every little thing that seems slightly dubious, and this is more than slightly dubious, is expected to be reported. You should have escalated this as soon as you were approached.

If you have really gone for this scam you are in deep tulip.

You deserve whatever you get.

[ChimpMaster]

Interesting thread because it brings up images of stack 'em high pile 'em deep charge 'em cheap Indian consultancies.

Saj is clearly Bob and is one of many such Bobs employed by these consultancies. Bob is also easier to manipulate by the Indian consultancy due to cultural rules which put managers up on pedestals and the younger technical lot down on the untouchables level.

I've seen Bobs get slapped by Management Bobs in the past, I mean proper slapped, not your pansy Western type slap! Coercing lowly contractor Bob into an act of fraud is not at all difficult to do for Management Bob, and I bet it happens on a large scale. Do you think these consultancies report accurate timesheets for their own consultants - especially those offshore, of whom the client has no visibility?