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Computer Science graduates have the highest unemployment rate

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    #51
    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    Or as one man once said:
    Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
    Looking at the Dundee Computer Science syllabus it seems that the more low level stuff isn't taught till the 3rd year:
    BSc Computing Science :: School of Computing at University of Dundee
    Whether we like it or not, the low level stuff certainly isn't AS important as it once was. In the past, you simply couldn't BE a programmer without knowing ASM.

    As we move to higher-level languages it's increasing hard to know how it translates to the hardware... for instance if you do functional programming in Haskell, it's kind of the point that you're describing WHAT should happen, not HOW.
    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
    Originally posted by vetran
    Urine is quite nourishing

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      #52
      Originally posted by d000hg View Post
      Whether we like it or not, the low level stuff certainly isn't AS important as it once was. In the past, you simply couldn't BE a programmer without knowing ASM.

      As we move to higher-level languages it's increasing hard to know how it translates to the hardware... for instance if you do functional programming in Haskell, it's kind of the point that you're describing WHAT should happen, not HOW.
      Some of us still work at a low level where assembler and machine code are important.
      Even if it is only theoretical I think it helps to know how we get from high level through compiler or interpreter to assembler and binary.
      Just saying like.

      where there's chaos, there's cash !

      I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong!

      Lowering the tone since 1963

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        #53
        Aside from all this academic debate, will new graduates from the UK be able to compete for jobbings with people who've gained an MSc from the Ramananadingdong University of Bangalore?
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #54
          Originally posted by Spacecadet
          Well I'm a Physics grad and I still think you're a knob
          Originally posted by d000hg View Post
          WHS.
          And you really think i care for the opinion of two random blokes on the internet who seem incapable of holding a debate without resorting to profanity and personal abuse?? grow up will you, you're embarrassing yourselves

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            #55
            Originally posted by Joeman View Post
            And you really think i care for the opinion of two random blokes on the internet who seem incapable of holding a debate without resorting to profanity and personal abuse?? grow up will you, you're embarrassing yourselves
            you started it when you called me a compsci graduate
            Coffee's for closers

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              #56
              Originally posted by Joeman View Post
              And you really think i care for the opinion of two random blokes on the internet who seem incapable of holding a debate without resorting to profanity and personal abuse?? grow up will you, you're embarrassing yourselves
              You seem to care.
              Originally posted by MaryPoppins
              I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
              Originally posted by vetran
              Urine is quite nourishing

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                #57
                Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
                you started it when you called me a compsci graduate
                Now you're sounding like a spoilt kid.. can you show me where i called you a compsci grad? I think you're now making things up to save yourself...

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Arturo Bassick View Post
                  Some of us still work at a low level where assembler and machine code are important.
                  So what? Those people can learn this stuff, but it's silly to teach everyone that when most won't use it, and would be better learning about multithreading and parralel programming.
                  Even if it is only theoretical I think it helps to know how we get from high level through compiler or interpreter to assembler and binary.
                  I think it's useful... I just think other things are as or more helpful, and have greater practicality.

                  After all I've worked in some areas where you're squeezing cycles (3D rendering for example) and even there we're no longer at the stage of trying to figure out what the cache will be doing, or whether to use a XOR instead of an ADD (or whatever). So it now comes under "slightly useful historical underpinnings" rather than "fundamentals of CS" in my book, apart from specialists who will do specialist courses if they want to.
                  Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                  I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                  Originally posted by vetran
                  Urine is quite nourishing

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Joeman View Post
                    Now you're sounding like a spoilt kid.. can you show me where i called you a compsci grad? I think you're now making things up to save yourself...
                    It appears the sockies are getting better. Taking on the big boys in general and still only 'Mostly Harmless' after 95 posts. That's not bad going....
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      It appears the sockies are getting better. Taking on the big boys in general and still only 'Mostly Harmless' after 95 posts. That's not bad going....
                      I wish you'd get off the computer and take me on, big boy. You just need to get your confidence back.

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