I wonder if Dave will do one of his hilarious impersonations of another world leader.
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostI wonder if Dave will do one of his hilarious impersonations of another world leader.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostHang on, isn't it reasonable having got yourself in debt for the country who is expected to bail you out to put some terms and conditions?
So the UK is busy complaining about Germany bossing round Greece and Italy; so why doesn't the UK step in and open it's cheque book then?
Typical sit on the sidelines tight fisted and do nothing but complain about the one who's actually keeping the whole thing afloat.
Nobody is being forced to do anything but as is typical of someone who sponges off you, they're always ungrateful when they have to pay it back.
The Greeks should be allowed to pull out of the Euro and if this means defaulting on debt then so be it. The Germans are in it up to their necks because they instigated the Euro. They are the ones who have benefitted the most from the Euro.
Britain has every right to complain. We are part of the EU and chose not to join the Euro which is perfectly our right. So as a member of the EU it is not at all unreasonable for the UK to challenge the way that the Euro is run.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by Arturo Bassick View PostIt is precisely because national sovereignty exists that nations are able charge headlong into ruin. If all EU nations were governed centrally then the incredible profligacy of the ruined nations would not even could not have happened, unless of course the whole EU headed down the same route.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by Arturo Bassick View PostIt is precisely because national sovereignty exists that nations are able charge headlong into ruin. If all EU nations were governed centrally then the incredible profligacy of the ruined nations would not even could not have happened, unless of course the whole EU headed down the same route.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhich is true as long as you also understand that such a system would have no democratic accountability. This would mean that the whole of Europe would be run by a junta in Brussels. If you look at the individuals who currently make up the ruling classes of the EU then it would be frightening to allow these people to make decisions without being answerable to anyone.
Countries can ignore EU legislation whenever they want. Obviously if they do their right to trade with other countries may be withdrawn, not by the EU but each country in the EU, and of course each EU country would put up a diifferent set of trade barriers, or even maybe none at all.
The EU is nothing more than inter country trade agreement. Nothing more or less.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by Arturo Bassick View PostIt is precisely because national sovereignty exists that nations are able charge headlong into ruin. If all EU nations were governed centrally then the incredible profligacy of the ruined nations would not even could not have happened, unless of course the whole EU headed down the same route.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhich is true as long as you also understand that such a system would have no democratic accountability. This would mean that the whole of Europe would be run by a junta in Brussels. If you look at the individuals who currently make up the ruling classes of the EU then it would be frightening to allow these people to make decisions without being answerable to anyone.
No idea how you would implement it mind.
It also covers blasters point. No nation state could borrow individually as the whole thing would be centrally governed.Just saying like.
where there's chaos, there's cash !
I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong!
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostCompletely overdone, you always give the impression that the EU actually runs countries. The tanks won't come rolling down to Athens if Greece leaves the EU. That won't change. But new rules will mean Brussels can effectively throw a country out of the Euro if they don't abide the rules.
Countries can ignore EU legislation whenever they want. Obviously if they do their right to trade with other countries may be withdrawn, not by the EU but each country in the EU, and of course each EU country would put up a diifferent set of trade barriers, or even maybe none at all.
The EU is nothing more than inter country trade agreement. Nothing more or less.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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