Working with Bobs

[suityou01]

"I am the BPM architect. I designed the BPM processes" So the CSF, KPIs and PIs are in your process documentation somewhere amongst that 155 pages. You did make sure Bob got a copy didn't you?

"...and the logical data model" So you already determined what is mandatory and non-mandatory data? It's documented in your 155 page functional spec isn't it? I may have asked already but you did give Bob a copy?

Hope this brings some clarity....you are welcome

oh and there's no need to facepalm me Bob, only responding to your cry for help in a brotherly contractor kinda way...

Bob has had a copy of the F-Spec and LDM for weeks, and has been booking idle time against the project. Bob has only just read the F-Spec. Bob was also present in all of the workshops. ClientCo has complained about how frakin useless Bob is, how little attention they pay in the workshops and how whenever they open their gob nothing of any worth actually comes out.

[MarillionFan]

Bob has had a copy of the F-Spec and LDM for weeks, and has been booking idle time against the project. Bob has only just read the F-Spec. Bob was also present in all of the workshops. ClientCo has complained about how frakin useless Bob is, how little attention they pay in the workshops and how whenever they open their gob nothing of any worth actually comes out.

So manage Bob then Suity you limp dick.

When the going gets tough the tough (work to their contract).

[tractor]

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Bob has had a copy of the F-Spec and LDM for weeks, and has been booking idle time against the project. Bob has only just read the F-Spec. Bob was also present in all of the workshops. ClientCo has complained about how frakin useless Bob is, how little attention they pay in the workshops and how whenever they open their gob nothing of any worth actually comes out.

Nice swerve

So does the doc contain the information he needs or not? Specifically, performance measures and data definitions?

[ChimpMaster]

I don't like Bob, at all, so I'm going with Suity on this one.

[suityou01]

So manage Bob then Suity you limp dick.

When the going gets tough the tough (work to their contract).

Disagree there fck-knuckles.

Surely it's do your bit well, don't get drawn in, then when they need you they will ask and you get them to extend your contract to do the extra work. Plenty kerching without having a heart-attack or being a pushover like you.

Just saying like

Edit : Are you such a pushover because you lack confidence in your abilities? Are you one of these have a go types, jack of all trades?

[suityou01]

Nice swerve

So does the doc contain the information he needs or not? Specifically, performance measures and data definitions?

Performance measures are defined in the non funcs. Data defs are in the F-Spec and LDM.

He has EVERYTHING he needs, and is just an oxygen thief.

[tractor]

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Performance measures are defined in the non funcs. Data defs are in the F-Spec and LDM.

He has EVERYTHING he needs, and is just an oxygen thief.

Clearly, he doesn't. Seems to me he's lacking an understanding of your requirements and effective leadership. Whilst neither may be your responsibility but I have to wonder, having completed the investigative and design elements, what is your role now? If it is partly to support the build phase with business knowledge and to provide continuity between what has been agreed and what is being built then I see where the problem lies.

[suityou01]

Clearly, he doesn't. Seems to me he's lacking an understanding of your requirements and effective leadership. Whilst neither may be your responsibility but I have to wonder, having completed the investigative and design elements, what is your role now? If it is partly to support the build phase with business knowledge and to provide continuity between what has been agreed and what is being built then I see where the problem lies.

I am the BPM architect. My role is to oversee the development of the BPM stuff. I have even negotiated getting my hands a bit dirty to do some development.

This guy is the sharepoint lead. His role is to gather requirements, do mockups and contribute his part of the F-Spec and oversee development. So far we only have my parts in the F-Spec, so only my parts can be developed. Seeing as I am overseeing this piece, and also lending a hand with development I am plenty busy thanks very much.

The project manager is clear enough about roles and responsibilities. Bob is the limp dick.

HTH

[sasguru]

I don't like Bob, at all, so I'm going with Suity on this one.

So you're a racist?

[Zippy]

Clearly, he doesn't. Seems to me he's lacking an understanding of your requirements and effective leadership. Whilst neither may be your responsibility but I have to wonder, having completed the investigative and design elements, what is your role now? If it is partly to support the build phase with business knowledge and to provide continuity between what has been agreed and what is being built then I see where the problem lies.

I may be behind the times but I think Suity has to help code it.
And for my two cents - Bobs can be hard to manage/nudge toward a delivery.