Wasting contractors time....how do I prosecute?

[suityou01]

CT may be able to argue down from 6 points with some mitigating circumstances.

or "favours"

[conned tractor]

CT may be able to argue down from 6 points with some mitigating circumstances.

Down from 6 points?

I'm a criminal until proven innocent for the second time today.

[Platypus]

CT may be able to argue down from 6 points with some mitigating circumstances.

I believe not, mandatory sentences laid down by law these days, no discretion allowed

[MarillionFan]

And for gods sake don't tell them you're a contractor. That's bound to kick off an HMRC investigation as well.

[suityou01]

I believe not, mandatory sentences laid down by law these days, no discretion allowed

He argued with the copper by the sounds of it so is probably on a terrorist register by now. Interesting times.

[SimonMac]

Having a great day today.

Early this morning I was pulled on Motorway and accused of having no insurance. Flagged on ANPR.
Me: It's a courtesy car given by a repairer whilst they sort out my vehicle.
Copper: It's not registered as having any insurance, have you got any documents.
Me: It's a courtesy car, I have the hire agreement - there see, and my license.
All: 15-20 minute interrrogation followed about where the car is being repaired, by who, who I am, where I'm going, a couple of trick questions also, so wolverhampton you say, no I said northampton. It was like they were expecting to find something.
Copper: OK, but this doesn't tell me that you're insured to drive the car and as the driver you are responsible to ensure you're insured.
Me: I've never asked for or been given an insurance document when I've hired a vehicle.
Copper: Don't get lippy son. Ok, I made that up - but it was like that was what he was thinking.

Result: Ticket to produce documents - a complete pain as I've got to get the place repairing my vehicle to provide a copy of their insurance certificate for me to produce to the cop shop when I get back from my week away contracting.

Note: My own insurance only covers me on that vehicle and not any other vehicle.

</whinge_whinge_whinge>

At least they didn't open the boot... They might have ended up in it.

With no insurance you're lucky then didn't sieze the car there and then

[Old Greg]

I believe not, mandatory sentences laid down by law these days, no discretion allowed

I have some recent experience(ahem) of this particular offence driving Mrs OG's car, related to a lapse in Mrs OG's otherwise excellent administration and a change in the insurance company's practice of renewing it every year unless you tell them otherwise.

You can accept the fixed penalty - 6 points and £200, or contest it in the magistrate's court, which in practice either means proving you had insurance or, asking for a reduced penalty because of mitigating circumstances, such as having a genuine and reasonable belief that the car was insured.

[MarillionFan]

I have some recent experience(ahem) of this particular offence driving Mrs OG's car, related to a lapse in Mrs OG's otherwise excellent administration and a change in the insurance company's practice of renewing it every year unless you tell them otherwise.

You can accept the fixed penalty - 6 points and £200, or contest it in the magistrate's court, which in practice either means proving you had insurance or, asking for a reduced penalty because of mitigating circumstances, such as having a genuine and reasonable belief that the car was insured.

And what did you land up paying pray tell?

[conned tractor]

I have some recent experience(ahem) of this particular offence driving Mrs OG's car, related to a lapse in Mrs OG's otherwise excellent administration and a change in the insurance company's practice of renewing it every year unless you tell them otherwise.

You can accept the fixed penalty - 6 points and £200, or contest it in the magistrate's court, which in practice either means proving you had insurance or, asking for a reduced penalty because of mitigating circumstances, such as having a genuine and reasonable belief that the car was insured.

And the outcome if you don't mind me asking....

...not that I'm guilty of course.

[Old Greg]

I coughed up to the fixed note penalty - first points I've ever had.

In truth, it would have been a lot worse if I'd found out after an accident, and there comes a time when you should take responsibility for your actions, pay your debt to society and begin the long, hard road to rehabilitation.

Also, I din't fancy, losing a day's work to stand up in court and explain how it was all Mrs OG's fault, landing her with a charge of keeping a car without insurance.